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01-22-2015, 08:16 PM
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Man assaulted by vigilante at Florida Walmart
Interesting dynamic going here. Apparently a black man with a gun is automatically assumed to be a thug.
http://news.yahoo.com/man-assaulted-...230643501.html
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A simple errand turned violent for Clarence Daniels this week when he went to Walmart for some coffee creamer and wound up in a chokehold.
Upon arriving at the Walmart in Florida’s Hillsborough County on Tuesday, the 62-year-old Daniels, who is black, grabbed his handgun from his car and slipped it into a hip holster underneath his coat. Watching this from inside the store was Michael Foster, a 43-year-old white man described by the Tampa Bay Times as “a well-intentioned vigilante.” As soon as Daniels walked into the store, Foster tackled him, shouting, “He’s got a gun!” Ignoring Daniels’ repeated yells of, “I have a permit!” Foster proceeded to put him into a chokehold. When sheriff’s deputies arrived on the scene, they confirmed that Daniels was indeed a concealed carry permit holder and Foster was arrested and charged with battery.
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01-22-2015, 08:29 PM
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Query: if the weapon was concealed, who would have known he had one?
Sum? It wasn't concealed and he was outside of permit.
This goes nowhere beyond illustrating that there are too many guns in circulation.
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01-22-2015, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
Query: if the weapon was concealed, who would have known he had one?
Sum? It wasn't concealed and he was outside of permit.
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I hate to piss on your "gotcha" moment but:
http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/pu...bill_to_br.php
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Florida doesn't have an open-carry law to show your piece off in public, but it's now OK to "briefly and openly" flash your firearm to the populace.
Since Gov. Rick Scott signed SB 234 into law Friday, it's been legal to show off your hardware -- but just for a little bit.
Here's the addition to Florida Statutes that bans openly carrying your weaponry:
It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.
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01-22-2015, 08:41 PM
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So, if perceived as angry or threatening...
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01-22-2015, 08:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeke
So, if perceived as angry or threatening...
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Nope.
What the law says is
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intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner
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Clarence Daniels did nothing unlawful.
Unless you feel it is reasonable to assume that any Knee Grow with a gun is by very nature "threatening". Is that what your argument is?
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01-22-2015, 08:51 PM
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Please.
This goes nowhere.
Will be quietly dropped, your race baiting fails.
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01-23-2015, 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeke
Please.
This goes nowhere.
Will be quietly dropped, your race baiting fails.
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Fuck off Zeke would have been more appropriate but it seems to upset people hereabouts so consider me reformed...or not.
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01-23-2015, 10:22 AM
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Doesn't upset anyone of which I am aware.
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