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[donquixote99]

^^^ Idiotic BS as always. You are worthless as a poster--you are never right, and never point out a damn thing. When I bother these days, I always attack you, not your content, because attacking your content is like attacking a pile of garbage.

[whell]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

When I bother these days, I always attack you, not your content, because attacking your content is like attacking a pile of garbage.

You and most of the rest of the crowd in here. But thanks for admitting it anyway.

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

I knew you wouldn't back up your own claim, and then you stooped to the post above. No wonder you don't want me around to point out how baseless your claims are.

You didn't answer the question. If you are going to be consistent with your reasoning about Trump, you would say that it is just a hypothetical. But you know that your assertion was ridiculous, so you took it as an invitation to leave. RSVP.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by whell

You and most of the rest of the crowd in here. But thanks for admitting it anyway.

A dishonest reply, due to selective emphasis. You don't ever argue honestly.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by whell

I knew you wouldn't back up your own claim, and then you stooped to the post above. No wonder you don't want me around to point out how baseless your claims are.

That wooshing sound you're hearing is the wind whistling in one ear and out the other, Mike.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

I'm simply looking at what the players are doing and, like many fans who showed up at the games during weeks 1 - 3 this year, criticizing it. But, I'm sure you'll continue to spin my comments in whatever manner suits you.

If a majority agreed with a protest it would negate the need for said protest. Furthermore, majorities are not the measure of what is moral/righteous. You can be sure that a majority of Alabamians didn't agree with the march on the Edmund Pettus bridge in 1965 (and likely celebrated the cops beating the shit out of the protesters).

Using the majority-equals-morality argument, Bull Connor was on the right side of the civil rights protests. According to Gallup polls conducted in the early 1960s, a majority of Americans disapproved of the “freedom riders,” and thought “sit-ins” at lunch counters, “freedom buses” and other demonstrations were more likely to hurt than help integration in the South.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/o...e-destroy.html

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If a majority agreed with a protest it would negate the need for said protest. Furthermore, majorities are not the measure of what is moral/righteous. You can be sure that a majority of Alabamians didn't agree with the march on the Edmund Pettus bridge in 1965 (and likely celebrated the cops beating the shit out of the protesters).

Using the majority-equals-morality argument, Bull Connor was on the right side of the civil rights protests. According to Gallup polls conducted in the early 1960s, a majority of Americans disapproved of the “freedom riders,” and thought “sit-ins” at lunch counters, “freedom buses” and other demonstrations were more likely to hurt than help integration in the South.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/o...e-destroy.html

You keep going in circles. I've already stated that no one disagrees with the players having a "right to protest". I've said that its the time and the place they're choosing to protest that fans have a disagreement with.

In the meantime, here's the owner of the Detroit Lions trying to get ahead of the issue, quite brilliantly I might add. I'm glad that there are still adults in the NFL.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/opi...way/106253520/

I'll also add that since Mrs. Ford, now in her 90's, has taken over the Lions franchise, the product on the field has improved. Looks like we could all learn a lot from her. At 92, she's still going strong.

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

That wooshing sound you're hearing is the wind whistling in one ear and out the other, Mike.

Nah, its you blowing smarmy comments out your ass.

[whell]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

You didn't answer the question. If you are going to be consistent with your reasoning about Trump, you would say that it is just a hypothetical. But you know that your assertion was ridiculous, so you took it as an invitation to leave. RSVP.

BS. You made statements that were incorrect. You asked no question.

Go back and listen to his comments live. He's speaking in "what if" terms, as in "Wouldn't you love to see....". No reasonable person would assume that a comment that starts with "Wouldn't you love to see...." is a statement of intent. But then, I have to keep reminding myself that folks around here long ago lost most of their reason and sense of perspective.

[whell]

http://nypost.com/2017/10/01/ravens-...hem-statement/

Before the Ravens hosted the Steelers on Sunday, the Baltimore team stepped to the sideline and took a knee as the PA announcer asked the stadium to take a moment “to pray that we as a nation embrace kindness, unity, equality and justice for all Americans.”

The fans poured boos down upon their favorite players, about to face off against the team’s blood rivals, as they knelt for the moment in prayer. The Ravens then rose as one and stood for the anthem.

Fans just want to go to a game - be it football, baseball, basketball, hockey, soccer, whatever - to be entertained, and they paid a lot for it (tickets, parking, concessions, etc.). The last thing that fans want is a dose of politics with their choice of entertainment. They come to sporting events or other entertainment venues to get away from their day to day experience, including political BS.

And, I know this may shock some of you, but some folks actually enjoy the tradition of the national anthem at the start of sporting events.