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Old 12-22-2016, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by whell View Post
You obviously didn't check them all, or if you did, you chose to ignore some things. Here are a few of the fake news links:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/27/op...rity.html?_r=1

Mr. Trump’s claim that illegal Mexican immigrants are “rapists,” and his...

Not what he said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.f4a73a7870c2

He referred to Mexicans as “rapists,” questioned Sen. John McCain’s ...

Wow, now the quote is spun as "all inclusive": Trump must think that Mexico is a whole country filled with rapists according that quote.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8fb95...most-electable

Trump called Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals during his announcement speech...

Sure, he said some were, but he also said that some were good people. Why leave that part out, unless you're trying to advance a particular narrative?

And again, while the remarks are not artfully constructed and certainly not "PC", there are verifiable facts in the remarks. Illegal immigrants have been convicted of drug crimes and violent crimes including assault, rape and murder. That cannot be disputed. It doesn't mean that all of them have, it doesn't mean a majority have.

But what's lost in the media hysteria about the remarks is a larger problem of a porous border, US citizens that have been made less safe by lack of border control, and periodic mass migration (which causes its own set of issues) encouraged by the prospect of easily defeated border security. I think the focus on the non-PC nature of the comments was a purposeful distraction from Trump's the larger discussion about border security.
Sure, there are some criminals in the immigrant population, as there are in all populations. That justifies holding them up as an invading menace? Only as a morally depraved way to get votes.

The cost is discrimination. The cost is hate, rants in cash register lines and much else. The cost is a homeless man beaten to death. The whole cost is far from reckoned, and may go ungodly high.

Like I said, none of the reports said "all." Your claim that Trumps remarks were distorted is BS word games. Trump, to get elected, instigated and normalized hate, and you defend that. This is not a matter on which 'men of good will' can differ. You have chosen evil. Fuck you to hell.
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