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[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

If you truly think Musk is being transparent right now, you really need another source of news. The big reveal about Twitter moderation is that people who did not know about something until now assume not knowing about it meant that it was a huge secret.

The Twitter Files is a lesson in how you can report on the deliberately-curated internal goings-on of any decent sized organization, and if you make it seem like you are breaking news, you can make even the most mundane shit seem scandalous to a receptive, conspiracy-prone audience.

This will fade like the fart in the wind that it is. It is nothing other than the latest conservative contrived scandal du jour concocted to try to create some sort of moral equivalency to their own depraved behavior. I am not even a wee bit surprised that you have been taken in by it.

Uh, OK. That's one perspective, and I'm sure it's also your preferred spin. There are a few things wrong with that perspective, however.

1) A little under half (48%) of U.S. adults say they get news from social media “often” or “sometimes,” a 5 percentage point decline compared with 2020, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted July 26-Aug. 8, 2021. That number is only going to increase over time.

2) In that same survey: In a separate question asking users of 10 social media sites whether they regularly get news there, about a third of U.S. adults (31%) say they get news regularly on Facebook, while about one-in-five Americans (22%) say they regularly get news on YouTube. Twitter and Instagram are regular news sources for 13% and 11% of Americans, respectively.

3) We know - this was known before the recent Twitter document dump - that the FBI met with Mark Zuckerberg ad specifically told them that there would be a "Russian hack and leak" operation that might include information about Hunter Biden. In August of 2022, Zuckerberg stated that Facebook limited the circulation of the NY Post story about Biden on their platform as a result of the FBI warning.

4) We now know that similar warnings were received by, and more extreme action was taken by, Twitter to limit the circulation of the story.

5) The FBI has had the Hunter Biden laptop since 2019.

At the very least, this looks and smells bad.
1) The FBI has now had some involvement in the last two elections. That stinks.
2). It's reasonable to assume that the FBI was aware of the contents of the Biden laptop before the warnings about "Russian hacking" were given provided to social media outlets.
3) If nearly half of Americans get their news from social media, then nearly half of Americans had access to news limited by the FBI. It is NOT the FBI's role to engage in "censorship by proxy".
4) Taken to the extreme, the FBI knew that others had copies of the laptop contents and that it was possible that this content would become public. Some might look at this as a "preemptive strike" to "discredit" the info before it was made public.

Again, if you're not concerned about the FBI taking action that limits the circulation of news stories, that's up to you. I strongly suspect that you'd be howling if it was determined that the FBI had been involved in limiting the circulation of any potentially negative story about Trump.

[finnbow]

[Chicks]

But, her emails!!!!

Whell and his low information, Faux “News” watching buddies get sucked into the big con, every time. Ya think they’d eventually learn they’re being conned, but nope. Groundhogs Day.

[donquixote99]

The alleged crime, I hear, is 'the government, via the FBI, colluding with big tech to quash news stories.'

1. It's alleged they colluded. Collusion is basically voluntary cooperation, isn't it? It's not like the FBI marched in and ordered stuff quashed. As long as it's voluntary, any news organization can quash all day long. And they do. Freedom of the press includes freedom from having to publish what some source wants published.

2. The phrase "news stories" is really a false label when we're talking about Russian propaganda.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

The alleged crime, I hear, is 'the government, via the FBI, colluding with big tech to quash news stories.'

1. It's alleged they colluded. Collusion is basically voluntary cooperation, isn't it? It's not like the FBI marched in and ordered stuff quashed. As long as it's voluntary, any news organization can quash all day long. And they do. Freedom of the press includes freedom from having to publish what some source wants published.

2. The phrase "news stories" is really a false label when we're talking about Russian propaganda.

What Twitter did doesn't even begin to compare to what David Pecker and the National Enquirer did for Trump in the 2016 election with his "catch and kill" tactics and what Fox News does every single day.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by finnbow

The Twitter Files in a nutshell:

Employees of a company made decisions about how best to enforce their rules resulting in fewer Nazis and less Russian propaganda and antivax disinformation.

The new management disagrees with those decisions and wants more Nazis, Russian propaganda and antivax disinformation while asserting that seeing Hunter's dick pics are a First Amendment right.

And that's about it.

Originally Posted by finnbow

If you truly think Musk is being transparent right now, you really need another source of news. The big reveal about Twitter moderation is that people who did not know about something until now assume not knowing about it meant that it was a huge secret.

The Twitter Files is a lesson in how you can report on the deliberately-curated internal goings-on of any decent sized organization, and if you make it seem like you are breaking news, you can make even the most mundane shit seem scandalous to a receptive, conspiracy-prone audience.

This will fade like the fart in the wind that it is. It is nothing other than the latest conservative contrived scandal du jour concocted to try to create some sort of moral equivalency to their own depraved behavior. I am not even a wee bit surprised that you have been taken in by it.

Essentially the 'Wingers are so desperate to find something/anything to tarnish President Biden with that they latch onto anything to try and do so. Anything to work againt the opposition rather than working with it.

[Chicks]

Is Dominion’s $1.6bn defamation lawsuit a death blow for Murdoch and Faux "News"?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...uit-deposition

We can hope.

Rupert Murdoch rarely has to answer for the alternative realities presented by his hugely profitable US cable network, Fox News.

Its conspiratorial claims of a parade of cover ups from the 2012 Benghazi attack to the climate crisis and Covid-19 have been lapped up by Fox viewers and scorned by much of the rest of America, and then the world moved on. But on Tuesday, the 91-year-old billionaire media mogul will be obliged to answer difficult questions under oath about the inner workings of Fox.

[Chicks]

Top US conservatives pushing Russia’s spin on Ukraine war, experts say
Some of the Kremlin’s most blatant falsehoods aimed at undercutting US aid are promoted by major figures on the right
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...in-ukraine-war

Whell's World.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Chicks

Top US conservatives pushing Russia’s spin on Ukraine war, experts say
Some of the Kremlin’s most blatant falsehoods aimed at undercutting US aid are promoted by major figures on the right
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...in-ukraine-war

Whell's World.

More whining about audit.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

More whining about audit.

As our resident Putin apologist, you know full well that wingnuts' opposition to support for Ukraine has exactly nothing to do with an audit.