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12-20-2023, 11:46 AM
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12-20-2023, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
After reading more on this, now I am betting the SCOTUS will reverse this very easily. Michigan ruled that since primary elections are a private affair conducted by the duopoly, the secretary of state has no legal grounds to interfere. I had forgotten that primaries are not state sanctioned elections, so Trump will get a reversal on this. The risk is that if they uphold this, another fifteen states or so will follow suit leading to serious civil consequences.
On the other hand, I do wish a lot of other states follow suit before SCOTUS makes their ruling.
Perhaps the Colorado's justices have accomplished what they set out to accomplish, determining that Trump is an Insurrectionist and a Traitor.
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If he had been charged it may stick. But without charges or a conviction he did not insurrect
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12-20-2023, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GChief
If he had been charged it may stick. But without charges or a conviction he did not insurrect
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He was impeached so that covers charges. Also the way that it is written in the 14th amendment leaves out convicted IIRC. At the time it was passed they had just went through dealing with insurrection and saw the need to suspend this need be a good guess.
Not a lawyer and will defer to a more learned one.
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12-20-2023, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
He was impeached so that covers charges. Also the way that it is written in the 14th amendment leaves out convicted IIRC. At the time it was passed they had just went through dealing with insurrection and saw the need to suspend this need be a good guess.
Not a lawyer and will defer to a more learned one.
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I do not disagree at all. Haven't heard a learned one say the 14th will stick to him yet today.
Edit: I am sure I could find a team blue lawyer that says it will stick if I looked.
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12-20-2023, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GChief
I do not disagree at all. Haven't heard a learned one say the 14th will stick to him yet today.
Edit: I am sure I could find a team blue lawyer that says it will stick if I looked.
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How about one of the most respected conservatives from the Federalist Society, a former judge?
Judge Luttig: Yesterday’s decision was a historic, constitutional decision
https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/wa...n-200628805719
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12-20-2023, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Chicks
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Just my opinion formed from how shit happens. SCOTUS is going to over turn it. Do I hope they don't? Hell yeah, will they, YES
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12-20-2023, 02:51 PM
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Trump spent years calling for political candidates to be stricken from ballots
https://www.rawstory.com/amp/trump-c...ack-2666700415
If the shoe was on the other foot, Donny, the MAGAMorons and SCOTUS would be all in.
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12-20-2023, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by GChief
Just my opinion formed from how shit happens. SCOTUS is going to over turn it. Do I hope they don't? Hell yeah, will they, YES
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Where does it say judges need convictions to back their judgements?
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12-20-2023, 10:44 PM
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Colorado Supreme Court justices face a flood of threats after disqualifying Trump from the ballot
The latest round of threats fits a familiar pattern: Trump faces a legal setback, and officials face threats.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...lot-rcna130720
The usual blowback from Whell's World of lunatics.
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12-20-2023, 11:37 PM
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What's the worry? This is just a distraction. The POT will insure that Mango Man is the party's nominee anyway. These Republican primaries are just for show. It's like Putin claiming he won his election(s).
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