Social Security and Medicare - Page 7

Tom Joad · #61 11-30-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by merrylander

Yes Tom Really, WBAL TV is just another FOX news bunch of republicans. I am going from $369/mo this year to $382 next year.

All I have to do is type in "Care first rate increase Maryland" and a whole shit load of sources say the same thing.

Here are just a few of many.

You may be insulated from this as you are probably in some kind of group plan, but the poor schmucks that are having to buy policies on the Obummercare exchanges are getting hammered.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opi...811-story.html

http://www.bizjournals.com/baltimore...quest-for.html

http://www.consumerhealthfirst.org/h...lic-opposition

ZeroJunk · #62 11-30-2016, 05:20 PM

The middle class got their ass spanked with Obamacare.

Probably the single largest reason the Democrats lost so much ground in the last eight years.

Luckily the bimbo Pelosi is staying in, so I am sure she will get the Democrats back in favor with the working class.

merrylander · #63 12-01-2016, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad

All I have to do is type in "Care first rate increase Maryland" and a whole shit load of sources say the same thing.

Here are just a few of many.

You may be insulated from this as you are probably in some kind of group plan, but the poor schmucks that are having to buy policies on the Obummercare exchanges are getting hammered.

No group but individual, Florence searched it out after I retired and we lost the company plan. Could have kept the company with COBRA - they call it that because it will bite you on the arse.

Had a lady call me about insurance after the ACA was passed, told her what I had and what it cost. She said stick with it you would be crazy to change.

Canada was 0.8% on my taxable income plus $54/mo family plan in Ontario and for healthcare better than here.

Tom Joad · #64 12-01-2016, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander

Canada was 0.8% on my taxable income plus $54/mo family plan in Ontario and for healthcare better than here.

I know.

And that's what we should have here.

I still can't understand why someone as familiar with the Canadian system as you are would support Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders.

nailer · #65 12-01-2016, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I know.

And that's what we should have here.

I still can't understand why someone as familiar with the Canadian system as you are would support Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders.

Sheep being used by their shepherds.

icenine · #66 12-01-2016, 09:30 AM

Sanders screwed you guys over and gave you Trump. You can whine all you want about "crooked" Hillary but in his heart of hearts Sanders knew it was over after New York but he just had to "carry on" till the convention to prove a point. Now the United States is further than ever from single payer thanks to Sanders. If Sanders was so great why could he not convince me? And by extension millions of others like me.

Oh have a nice day Bernie Bros have I made you guys upset? Get over it.

merrylander · #67 12-01-2016, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I know.

And that's what we should have here.

I still can't understand why someone as familiar with the Canadian system as you are would support Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders.

Because Bernie had about the chance of a snowball in hell of instituting SinglePayer. Americans won't go for it because they think it is soci@lism. Mind you most Americans would not recognize a soci@laist if one bit them on the arse.

icenine · #68 12-01-2016, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander

Because Bernie had about the chance of a snowball in hell of instituting SinglePayer. Americans won't go for it because they think it is soci@lism. Mind you most Americans would not recognize a soci@laist if one bit them on the arse.

And now thanks to Bernie we don't even have a shot at public option much less single payer.

Thanks Bernie.

Tom Joad · #69 12-01-2016, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by icenine

Sanders screwed you guys over and gave you Trump.

I'm fine with that. Trump was my no. 2 choice after Bernie.

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Originally Posted by icenine

If Sanders was so great why could he not convince me? And by extension millions of others like me.

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Originally Posted by icenine

Oh have a nice day Bernie Bros have I made you guys upset? Get over it.

Trump is the President. Get over it.

merrylander · #70 12-01-2016, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I'm fine with that. Trump was my no. 2 choice after Bernie.

Trump is the President. Get over it.

We have gotten over it - the 64 dollar question is will America get over it or will the Democrats have to come in and clean out the stables again. Maybe we need another Hercules.