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09-08-2022, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dondilion
The real power of the state is its ability to wield violence and that has always been infused with religious fervor.
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I do believe the Soviets used military might when they took Communism to China.
Pray tell, what religion were they pushing ?
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09-08-2022, 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BigElCat
I do believe the Soviets used military might when they took Communism to China.
Pray tell, what religion were they pushing ?
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The religious fervour of authoratorian communism. Russian style.
Communism as a religion surrogate.
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09-08-2022, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Pio1980
The religious fervour of authoratorian communism. Russian style.
Communism as a religion surrogate.
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No, he's saying they co-opt religion, and have to have a Godhead. "Always".
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09-07-2022, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Oerets
By the allowing of public funds to support the sending of students to private and religious schools. At first it seemed to be an attempt at breaking teacher unions, now to bring back religion to the schools on the tax payers dime.
This country been able to survive for this long because of the separation of church and state. To now with the Johnson Amendment being under attack.
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For charter schools, the idea was to provide an alternative learning environment that meets or exceeds what's available in the public school system, while allowing the curriculum to be tailored to certain types of students. The idea that all students should have the same curriculum was great 100 years ago when much of the US still had an agricultural economy. Allowing schools to tailor education to focus on STEM, leadership, foreign language immersion, etc., does have certain advantages.
As far as private schools: why not allow parents to choose which school their children will attend. Why lock low-income families' kids into floundering school districts while kids whose families can afford it send their kids to a school that produced superior results?
Parents who send their kids to a private school essentially pay tuition twice: once with their local tax bill, and again when they pay tuition at the school of their choice. That's fine if you can afford it, but many families can't.
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09-07-2022, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by whell
For charter schools, the idea was to provide an alternative learning environment that meets or exceeds what's available in the public school system, while allowing the curriculum to be tailored to certain types of students. The idea that all students should have the same curriculum was great 100 years ago when much of the US still had an agricultural economy. Allowing schools to tailor education to focus on STEM, leadership, foreign language immersion, etc., does have certain advantages.
As far as private schools: why not allow parents to choose which school their children will attend. Why lock low-income families' kids into floundering school districts while kids whose families can afford it send their kids to a school that produced superior results?
Parents who send their kids to a private school essentially pay tuition twice: once with their local tax bill, and again when they pay tuition at the school of their choice. That's fine if you can afford it, but many families can't.
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Some good points. Many of the public schools are handicapped with oversized admin.
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09-07-2022, 01:15 PM
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The charter schools is a way around busing, integration, teaching with little transparencies. A profit engine for those running the schools.
Few local controls, oversight over the curriculum. Have not proven to be any better then public schools in test scores.
Less diverse of a student body. No busing for students so limit the applicants to those with transportation. Special need students are not assured admittance.
Charter schools will increase the tribal like separation going on in our society. At the time the opposite is much in need.
Public schools are just that a reflection of the surrounding areas. One of the biggest issues with pubic schools is the funding model. With property taxes the fuel. Affluent areas better schools, less funded schools suffer. Taking a portion of the funds away from publicly accountable schools to a private opaque one is problematic at best.
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06-01-2023, 03:18 PM
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Violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism and tribalism and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children: organized religion ought to have a great deal on its conscience.
- Christopher Hitchens
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06-01-2023, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Violent, irrational, intolerant, allied to racism and tribalism and bigotry, invested in ignorance and hostile to free inquiry, contemptuous of women and coercive toward children: organized religion ought to have a great deal on its conscience.
- Christopher Hitchens
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We still need a like button.
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06-22-2023, 07:52 PM
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07-26-2023, 07:54 AM
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Christopher Hitchens - Religion Is Their Favorite Toy
In a comment section:
Religion, a cuddly toy with razor blades underneath. The harder you squeeze it, the more you bleed.
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