Hamas Attack in Israel

[Oerets]

Israel IMHO should of held off any attacks choosing to attempt a cease fire and negotiate with Hamas. Stating all bets were of with the first rocket fired at Israel.

No chance at a cease fire working for more then a few hours. This would give the Israelis the high ground with most of the world.

Now Hamas is pure evil and needs to be stopped. Yet the Israelis IIRC are signatories of International laws regarding warfare.

""However, the exercise of this right of self-defence is still subject to international humanitarian law. In other words, the lawful exercise of self-defence does not allow a state to have recourse to unlimited means, and is subject to jus in bello to minimise suffering in armed conflicts.""

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023...-gaza-conflict


One of the problems with modern warfare is the ability to have real time video pictures shown to the rest of the world. Atrocities in the past were harder to prove with less documentation. Does not mean they didn't happen. Wars have always been the darkest side of humanity.

[Ike Bana]

Hamas are homicidal terrorists. They don't want a two state solution. They don't even want the destruction of the state of Israel. What Hamas wants is all Jews dead. In 2005 Gaza got their two state solution. In 2006 Hamas took over control of Gaza and for all purposes became the government of Gaza. The terrorism from Hamas did not stop with the 2005 withdrawal of Israeli settlers from Gaza. If anything it intensified. Suicide bombings, rocket and mortar attacks on civilian areas in Israel continued. The murder and public displays of Palestinian corpses of those who oppose Hamas continued, and continue to this day.

So, in 2007, IN A JOINT DECISION, Israel and Egypt began the joint blockade of Gaza. The Egyptians are not interested in having a terrorist rogue nation next to their border either. The blockade is not an Israeli blockade, it is a joint Israel/Egypt blockade to protect both countries...a cooperative effort by Israel and it's reasonable ally in the region.

Any rocket, mortar, or suicide bombing attacks being perped on Egypt? Fuck no...no Jews to kill in Egypt.

There is no negotiating with homicidal Islamofascist bigots...and we have known this for a long long time. Hamas is more dangerous to Gazans than any Israeli...

Ashraf Aweidah, was killed by armed groups in Gaza on Friday, Nov. 16, 2012. His body was tossed into one of the streets of Gaza City with a paper attached to him that labeled him an Israeli informant. From her family’s home in the Zeitoun neighborhood, Aweidah’s wife Khatam told Al-Monitor that her husband was killed unjustly and the problem arose because of the Jeep Magnum that he had bought a month before his arrest. Investigators explained to her sons that this car was suspicious and had been under surveillance for a long time.

Ashraf Aweidah, murdered and his corpse thrown onto the street in Gaza City because of a "suspicious" fucking car he bought. And the Jews are the bad guys according to anti-Semite Ilhan Omar and her anti-Semitic partners from "The Squad", which is just the other side of the same extremist coin as "The Freedom Caucus."

Any Gazan who speaks in opposition to Hamas...any Gazan who Hamas even thinks might speak in opposition to Hamas...any Gazan who associates with any other Gazan who might think or speak in opposition to Hamas...any Gazan who bought the wrong car is automatically an Israeli collaborator.

[RickeyM]

What are the solutions? I know it's not easy or simple but there's got to be a way.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Hamas are homicidal terrorists. They don't want a two state solution.

Nor does Bibi and the Far Right faction of his coalition. That is precisely why they propped up Hamas in an effort to undermine (relative) moderates in the Palestinian Authority.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Nor does Bibi and the Far Right faction of his coalition. That is precisely why they propped up Hamas in an effort to undermine (relative) moderates in the Palestinian Authority.

This situation will now be further complicated with $14 Billion complements of the US rattling in Bibi's pockets, which of course will go a long way in prolonging this war. Call it unintended consequence, Israelis are disgusted with Bibi yet the newfound riches will help him extend his stay in office indefinitely and the turmoil in Gaza.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Nor does Bibi and the Far Right faction of his coalition. That is precisely why they propped up Hamas in an effort to undermine (relative) moderates in the Palestinian Authority.

Nobody always agrees with everybody else. Slick observation finn. You sound like the alt-right in this country. Conservative Israelis created Hamas in order to have more dead lsraelis which would enhance their political status. Right...and the January 6th rioters were all ANTIFA dressed up like MAGA.

GOT IT!

I'm just a little fucking tired of hearing US liberals blaming Jews for the existense of Islamofascist homicidal subhumans.

Antisemitic Conspiracies About 9/11 Endure 20 Years Later

Sorry, but the 9/11 terrorists weren't a bunch of blue haired Hadassah zionazi old ladies on a break from the majongg club.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Nobody always agrees with everybody else. Slick observation finn. You sound like the alt-right in this country. Conservative Israelis created Hamas in order to have more dead lsraelis which would enhance their political status. Right...and the January 6th rioters were all ANTIFA dressed up like MAGA.

GOT IT!

Show me exactly where I said either of those things or is that just your idea of humor?

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Nor does Bibi and the Far Right faction of his coalition. That is precisely why they propped up Hamas in an effort to undermine (relative) moderates in the Palestinian Authority.

Originally Posted by finnbow

Show me exactly where I said either of those things or is that just your idea of humor?

Jist keep blaming Jews for the terror that has befallen them, finn. Keep pointing your gnarly stink finger of blame at the victims. The Israeli people get to decide who they want in office and who they trust to keep them safe from terrorists. You dont like their choises? Too fuckin' bad. Israelis know that they cant depend on a bunch of AOC/Ilhan Omar cheerleaders to keep them safe.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Nor does Bibi and the Far Right faction of his coalition. That is precisely why they propped up Hamas in an effort to undermine (relative) moderates in the Palestinian Authority.

Chickenshit lawyer response to my post...90% of which you dodged, as usual.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Jist keep blaming Jews for the terror that has befallen them, finn. Keep pointing your gnarly stink finger of blame at the victims. The Israeli people get to decide who they want in office and who they trust to keep them safe from terrorists. You dont like their choises? Too fuckin' bad. Israelis know that they cant depend on a bunch of AOC/Ilhan Omar cheerleaders to keep them safe.

So what do we get for sending BiBi and his band of religious extremists $14 Billion?