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Old 03-21-2018, 08:29 PM
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The rabble elects directly everyone but EC selections and appointments, afaik.
Where does the EC come from?
Yet another relic from the founders, helping the small States. At that time the Slave States be it at the time. Still a smaller lesser members of the whole collective. Thus giving a equal vote in the decisions for the whole.


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Old 03-22-2018, 12:59 PM
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Former U.N. ambassador John Bolton recorded a video used by the Russian gun rights group The Right to Bear Arms in 2013 to encourage the Russian government to loosen gun laws.

The episode, which has not been previously reported, illustrates the common cause that Russian and American gun rights groups were forming in the years leading up to the 2016 election through former National Rifle Association president David Keene. Keene appointed Bolton to the NRA's international affairs subcommittee in 2011.

Russian politician Alexander Torshin helped establish The Right to Bear Arms and cultivate ties with American gun rights groups including the NRA. As a Putin ally, Torshin served as the deputy speaker of Russia's parliament for more than a decade, and also spent time on Russia's National Anti-Terrorism Committee, a state body that includes the director of Russia's internal security service.

The Bolton video appears to be another plank in a bridge built by Russia to conservative political organizations inside the United States. It's unclear why Russian leaders wanted to curry favor with the NRA, but Torshin and Keene appeared to have developed close ties over in the years prior to the 2016 election.

It's a relationship that has outsized importance now that the FBI is reportedly investigating whether Torshin illegally funneled money to the NRA to assist the Trump campaign in 2016, as McClatchy reported in January. The NRA has declined wrongdoing.
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster Is Expected To Leave Trump Administration
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Bolton, who visited President Donald Trump in the Oval Office earlier this month and has reportedly been considered as a replacement for national security adviser H.R. McMaster, is a curious pick for The Right to Bear Arms in its video effort to influence the Russian legislature.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/22/59589...ntent=20180322
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Old 03-23-2018, 12:13 AM
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Yeah, sometimes I wonder when Republicans will realize that they're a part of the so-called "tyrannical government". It would be a hoot to watch them come under attack by the very monster they created. Just desserts.
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Old 03-23-2018, 06:59 AM
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Yeah, sometimes I wonder when Republicans will realize that they're a part of the so-called "tyrannical government". It would be a hoot to watch them come under attack by the very monster they created. Just desserts.


It seems we might be headed that way.
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Former U.N. ambassador John Bolton recorded a video used by the Russian gun rights group The Right to Bear Arms in 2013 to encourage the Russian government to loosen gun laws.

The episode, which has not been previously reported, illustrates the common cause that Russian and American gun rights groups were forming in the years leading up to the 2016 election through former National Rifle Association president David Keene. Keene appointed Bolton to the NRA's international affairs subcommittee in 2011.

Russian politician Alexander Torshin helped establish The Right to Bear Arms and cultivate ties with American gun rights groups including the NRA. As a Putin ally, Torshin served as the deputy speaker of Russia's parliament for more than a decade, and also spent time on Russia's National Anti-Terrorism Committee, a state body that includes the director of Russia's internal security service.

The Bolton video appears to be another plank in a bridge built by Russia to conservative political organizations inside the United States. It's unclear why Russian leaders wanted to curry favor with the NRA, but Torshin and Keene appeared to have developed close ties over in the years prior to the 2016 election.

It's a relationship that has outsized importance now that the FBI is reportedly investigating whether Torshin illegally funneled money to the NRA to assist the Trump campaign in 2016, as McClatchy reported in January. The NRA has declined wrongdoing.
National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster Is Expected To Leave Trump Administration
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National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster Is Expected To Leave Trump Administration

Bolton, who visited President Donald Trump in the Oval Office earlier this month and has reportedly been considered as a replacement for national security adviser H.R. McMaster, is a curious pick for The Right to Bear Arms in its video effort to influence the Russian legislature.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/22/59589...ntent=20180322
Wow! Right to bear arms in Russia.
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Old 03-23-2018, 11:22 AM
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Yet another relic from the founders, helping the small States. At that time the Slave States be it at the time. Still a smaller lesser members of the whole collective. Thus giving a equal vote in the decisions for the whole.


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And do you believe helping smaller states is a relic?
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Old 03-23-2018, 12:01 PM
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And do you believe helping smaller states is a relic?
No not at all, helping not over powering by sheer numbers by a more populated neighboring state. Was an item inserted at the founding fathers, now a historic one, hence the term relic was used.
Much liken to keeping the residents of Alaska and California represented in a balance of power. Where if it was just a majority controlled then in all reality the states with a largest population would control the smaller ones.


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Old 03-23-2018, 01:09 PM
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In 1776 much of the USA wasn't. Automatic arms were not even thought of yet. Slavery was legal. And so on and so on. Stuff changes,nothing that lives stays the same. USA map at the time of the Declaration Of Independance (in red):
https://etc.usf.edu/maps/pages/6200/6206/6206.htm
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