Hybrids are showing expensive fixes.......

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Writewing

I guess folks cant want for nice things and also try to save some fuel in the bargain even if it isnt really worth it. Also I find it comical you compare a 2 wheel drive sub compact that has a 4 cyl engine with a mid sized all wheel drive SUV with a 6cyl engine.,,,there are likely some monkey's that could figure out they are not in the same ballpark to compare.

I'm just saying 20 years of technology and all that extra crap, shouldn't it be better than any "regular" car? What's the point of all that stuff if you're only going to get 35 MPG? The *point* of a hybrid is to use less gas. If you aren't using less gas why get one?

I don't really care if people want to buy them. It's their money. But I'd like it if someone would make the equivalent of the '88 CRX but with all the hybrid mpg. It should be able to get 80 mpg or more I would think. Where is that car?

[Writewing]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

I'm just saying 20 years of technology and all that extra crap, shouldn't it be better than any "regular" car? What's the point of all that stuff if you're only going to get 35 MPG? The *point* of a hybrid is to use less gas. If you aren't using less gas why get one?

I don't really care if people want to buy them. It's their money. But I'd like it if someone would make the equivalent of the '88 CRX but with all the hybrid mpg. It should be able to get 80 mpg or more I would think. Where is that car?

Its in my barn, I call it a lawn mower

[HatchetJack]

Instead of sending all our money to toyko, we should build our own electric
cars. Anyone drawing a check below 67 years old would have to actually set
an alarm and bring their sorry ass to work every day. We are already paying
them. Why should we pay them to watch cable. Drawing an unemployment
check? fine be here at 6:30 sharp. You got a bum arm? well you still got one
good one get your ass back to work. You cant see? you can answer the
phone. You're too dumb, fine you clean the shitter.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

But I'd like it if someone would make the equivalent of the '88 CRX but with all the hybrid mpg. It should be able to get 80 mpg or more I would think. Where is that car?

I think you just described the Honda Insight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight

John

PS: Don't feed the trolls.

[Combwork]

[QUOTE=Boreas;14277]I think you just described the Honda Insight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Insight

John

Interesting article, I didn't realise the battery packs were as expensive as that. Fuel economy is one thing, but cost's don't end there. All the diagnostic equipment needed and the 'closed door' policy in which independent garages find they cannot get service information from the manufacturers makes the things cheap to run but once the warranty runs out, very expensive to maintain.

Decades ago, Ford U.K. spent millions working on 'lean burn' technology; engines designed to give up to 100mpg (Imperial Gallon) not just on the test bed but out on the road. Then the government made it mandatory for all new cars to be fitted with catalytic converters. The increased backpressure killed the design and that was that; end of story.

Can straight petrol or diesel engines be designed to get 100+ mpg out of a 5 door car with the kind of performance drivers would be happy with?