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11-16-2010, 05:35 PM
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No one thing is going to solve the problem. I would start by:
1. Securing the border, as much as humanly possible.
2. Fine/arrest any employer who knowingly hires illegals...don't tell me that we can't create a database that's not effective.
3. Deport any illegal found here.
4. Revise the laws as necessary to reflect the current situation.
Amnesty will only encourage more illegal behavior.
I will also admit, I had a severe case of the ass whenever I RENEWED my driver's license, here in Bugtussell of all places, and was required to furnish a SSN & a birth certificate, while the State was allowing foreign nationals to APPLY for one with a payroll check stub or a utility bill.
They may have been required to furnish a Green Card as well, but it's plenty easy to buy fakes.
No doubt, Cargill carries more weight at the State Capitol than I do.
Chas
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11-16-2010, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles
No one thing is going to solve the problem. I would start by:
1. Securing the border, as much as humanly possible.
2. Fine/arrest any employer who knowingly hires illegals...don't tell me that we can't create a database that's not effective.
3. Deport any illegal found here.
4. Revise the laws as necessary to reflect the current situation.
Amnesty will only encourage more illegal behavior.
I will also admit, I had a severe case of the ass whenever I RENEWED my driver's license, here in Bugtussell of all places, and was required to furnish a SSN & a birth certificate, while the State was allowing foreign nationals to APPLY for one with a payroll check stub or a utility bill.
They may have been required to furnish a Green Card as well, but it's plenty easy to buy fakes.
No doubt, Cargill carries more weight at the State Capitol than I do.
Chas
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An important question about deporting imported workers - Are the U.S. Citizens willing to pay the freight on increasing the capacity of the INS and the courts to process and deport all such workers. Are we willing to pay the additional cost to add to the border patrol. The system for processing deportations is running at max capacity now. In this era of austerity, will the powers that be double or triple the budget for the immigration enforcement machinery?
Regards,
D-Ray
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11-16-2010, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
An important question about deporting imported workers - Are the U.S. Citizens willing to pay the freight on increasing the capacity of the INS and the courts to process and deport all such workers. Are we willing to pay the additional cost to add to the border patrol. The system for processing deportations is running at max capacity now. In this era of austerity, will the powers that be double or triple the budget for the immigration enforcement machinery?
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D-Ray
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Might be cheaper in the long run.
Chas
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11-16-2010, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles
Might be cheaper in the long run.
Chas
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And what politicians are willing to count on something happening "in the long run"? Several will talk a good game, but I don't think many of them are willing to roll the dice on something that will not somehow pay off during their term. See Chas, I'm getting more cynical about Washington than you are.
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D-Ray
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11-17-2010, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by d-ray657
And what politicians are willing to count on something happening "in the long run"? Several will talk a good game, but I don't think many of them are willing to roll the dice on something that will not somehow pay off during their term. See Chas, I'm getting more cynical about Washington than you are.
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D-Ray
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Perhaps we should join forces and start a pessimist club.
Chas
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11-17-2010, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles
Perhaps we should join forces and start a pessimist club.
Chas
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It is already formed and I am the president.
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11-17-2010, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles
Might be cheaper in the long run.
Chas
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Try this on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal..._United_States
There seems to be a lot of info that says yes and a lot of info that says no. Where does one go to find the real true story?
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