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The piece refers to poll results? Reliable polling that did not reduce the complexities of this issue to simple black and white, and did not push a point of view?
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02-07-2019, 10:53 AM
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Heavily biased article loaded with buzzwords and nonsense about what appears a push poll about an emotionally charged non-issue.
Maybe something less so;
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tarahae.../#6e8840c65cf8
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02-07-2019, 11:00 AM
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On the subject of prenatal abortion, how about solutions that render it electively unnecessary?
A good majority of Planned Parenthood services did just that. "Outlawing" PP eliminates those services without replacing them, it's entirely possible to be in favor of PP and fetal/host health support promotion, pre and post natal.
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What would do the most good for the most folk would be for all to co-operate to avoid having to even consider abortion in all but medically mandated cases. This means prenatal and postnatal care and assistance for the principal parties involved.
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Slips will happen no matter what.
Question one: which is worse, an abortion, or compelling a woman a to carry a child for up to nine months if she does not want to do so?
Question two: should anyone have the right to decide question one besides the woman in question?
Question three: Should the answer to question one depend on circumstances? If so, what circumstances, and again, who decides?
It's not an easy or trivial debate. There is no simple, persuasive answer.
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Slips will happen no matter what.
Question one: which is worse, an abortion, or compelling a woman a to carry a child for up to nine months if she does not want to do so?
Question two: should anyone have the right to decide question one besides the woman in question?
Question three: Should the answer to question one depend on circumstances? If so, what circumstances, and again, who decides?
It's not an easy or trivial debate. There is no simple, persuasive answer.
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No, there's not.
However, I think it's possible to be a "pro-life" person without being rabidly anti-abortion to the exclusion of everything else.
Something to consider in all this is whether the fetus has better legal protection status as the property of the host than as a nonviable dependent "person" with all the potential legal complications.
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Originally Posted by donquixote99
Slips will happen no matter what.
Question one: which is worse, an abortion, or compelling a woman a to carry a child for up to nine months if she does not want to do so?
Question two: should anyone have the right to decide question one besides the woman in question?
Question three: Should the answer to question one depend on circumstances? If so, what circumstances, and again, who decides?
It's not an easy or trivial debate. There is no simple, persuasive answer.
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No, there's not.
However, I think it's possible to be a "pro-life" person without being rabidly anti-abortion to the exclusion of everything else.
Something to consider in all this is whether the fetus has better legal protection status as the property of the host than as a non-viable dependent "person" with all the potential legal complications.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
Slips will happen no matter what.
Question one: which is worse, an abortion, or compelling a woman a to carry a child for up to nine months if she does not want to do so?
Question two: should anyone have the right to decide question one besides the woman in question?
Question three: Should the answer to question one depend on circumstances? If so, what circumstances, and again, who decides?
It's not an easy or trivial debate. There is no simple, persuasive answer.
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Here’s What I Want Donald Trump And Everyone Else To Know About My 'Late-Term Abortion'
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b09293b20a8263
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You have to be a very black-and-white thinker to say that woman made the wrong decision. You have to be very authoritarian to want to take the ability to make that decision away from her.
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