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“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero
A couple thousand years ago!
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07-16-2018, 11:47 AM
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^^Amazing excerpt and thanks for sharing.
It really makes one wonder where this is going and how this will end.
What Trump seems to be doing is mortgaging America for personal reasons.
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07-16-2018, 11:53 AM
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John O. Brennan
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Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???
8:52 AM · Jul 16, 2018
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07-16-2018, 12:16 PM
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Trump, Treasonous Traitor
This is an incredible, unprecedented moment. America is being betrayed by its own president. America is under attack and its president absolutely refuses to defend it.
Simply put, Trump is a traitor and may well be treasonous.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/15/o...ion-putin.html
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Andrew Wortman
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Remember after 9/11 when President Bush was so obsessed with making sure we had a good relationship with Al Quaeda and sat down for a one-on-one 90 minute meeting with Osama Bin Ladin? Me neither.
#TreasonSummit
Donald J. Trump
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Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!
1:30 AM · Jul 16, 2018 from Ronkonkoma, NY
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07-16-2018, 12:39 PM
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Even treasonous behavior won’t stop Whell from defending his Dear Leader. Sad.
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‘Shameful,’ ‘disturbing,’ and an 'embarrassment’ — Congress reacts to Trump’s press conference with Putin
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/sh...tin-2018-07-16
Time for action, not words, Congress! Censure the traitor, then impeach his ass.
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07-16-2018, 12:52 PM
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This Is the Moment of Truth for Republicans
The GOP can either defend the United States or serve the damaged and defective man who is now its president.
https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...cision/565289/
There are exactly two possible explanations for the shameful performance the world witnessed on Monday, from a serving American president.
Either Donald Trump is flat-out an agent of Russian interests—witting, unwitting, from fear of blackmail, in hope of future deals, out of manly respect for Vladimir Putin, out of gratitude for Russia's help during the election, out of pathetic inability to see beyond his 306 electoral votes—whatever the exact mixture of motives might be, it doesn't really matter.
Or he is so profoundly ignorant, insecure, and narcissistic not to realize that, at every step, he was advancing the line that Putin hoped he would advance, and the line that the American intelligence, defense, and law-enforcement agencies most dreaded.
Conscious tool. Useful idiot. Those are the choices, though both possibly true—the main question is the proportions.
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Dictionary.com
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Patriot: A person who loves, supports, and defends his or her country and its interests with devotion.
Traitor: A person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.
(link: http://www.dictionary.com/browse/traitor) dictionary.com/browse/traitor
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Quit now, Trump staffers. Save your souls.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b0b_story.html
By Ruth Marcus
Deputy editorial page editor, columnist
July 16 at 2:46 PM
Everyone who works for President Trump: Quit now. Save your souls. Save your honor, such as it is. Save your reputation, such as it remains. Russia attacked our democracy. Trump has demonstrated repeatedly, and did so again with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, that he doesn’t care and won’t defend his country.
If you work for this man and you call yourself a patriot, it is time for you to go.
This may sound excessive, even irresponsible. Indeed, for months I have agonized over the question of public service in the age of Trump.
Of course, as a general matter, it is better to have more grown-ups around Trump, mitigating his worst impulses, providing wisdom born of experience to counter his ignorance and petulance.
But that assessment assumes facts not in evidence: that Trump is educable or containable. Actually, it contravenes the available evidence. There is none that Trump has done anything but what Trump wants to do. Monday’s news conference made that clear.
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