Lies, damn lies,

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I think were all overcompensated. Well, except for the CEOs of course, those poor things are so horribly abused....................

Anyways, I firmly believe that once we're all working for a warm bucket of gruel and cot in the company barracks, America will be back on top again.

And, I know how THAT makes the heads of all True Patriots swell with pride!

Dave

Fixed it for ya.

[Oerets]

Lets see, first go after union jobs. Eliminate the power of the strike and organizing. Then once the unions are weak go after the rest of the private sector jobs. Take away things like a retirement, health care coverage to where of course a Government job will look so much better.

Why is it when some look at what others have will think, I don't have that so they should not be able to!" Instead of thinking "I should be able to have the same thing".



Barney

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Lets see, first go after union jobs. Eliminate the power of the strike and organizing. Then once the unions are weak go after the rest of the private sector jobs. Take away things like a retirement, health care coverage to where of course a Government job will look so much better.

Why is it when some look at what others have will think, I don't have that so they should not be able to!" Instead of thinking "I should be able to have the same thing".



Barney

Precisely.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Lets see, first go after union jobs. Eliminate the power of the strike and organizing. Then once the unions are weak go after the rest of the private sector jobs. Take away things like a retirement, health care coverage to where of course a Government job will look so much better.

Why is it when some look at what others have will think, I don't have that so they should not be able to!" Instead of thinking "I should be able to have the same thing".



Barney

EXCELLENT POST! Tell me, Barney. Why do you think it is?

Dave

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by Oerets

Why is it when some look at what others have will think, I don't have that so they should not be able to!" Instead of thinking "I should be able to have the same thing".



Barney

And why is it when some look at what others have they say "I should not have to earn that but the Gov't should give me a large part of what they have earned"

See how that works....

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Rex E.

And why is it when some look at what others have they say "I should not have to earn that but the Gov't should give me a large part of what they have earned"

See how that works....

Who does this? You?

Save for my time in the military and tax refunds, I have never held a government check in my hand.

But, I sure would like to have the power to protect what I do have.
And, my employer finds new and inventive ways to shave me down every day, now. From the "incentive bonus" scam to the latest---Direct elimination of holiday pay.

I wonder what socio-political conditions could be emboldening them?

And no, it isn't Obama.

Dave

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Who does this? You?

Save for my time in the military and tax refunds, I have never held a government check in my hand.

But, I sure would like to have the power to protect what I do have.
And, my employer finds new and inventive ways to shave me down every day, now. From the "incentive bonus" scam to the latest---Direct elimination of holiday pay.

I wonder what socio-political conditions could be emboldening them?

And no, it isn't Obama.

Dave

I don't and you know that but many liberal I know personally believe they are do some of the money of folks that go to work everyday. It's not that they can't work it's just they feel they should not have to and that people who do work should be more than willing to "spread the love"

Why should you get "holiday pay" that is just religious bullshit you don't believe in so why should you get it. Now if you were a Christian or of some other religion and believed then I could see your argument but since your not you should not even be interested in that money to begin with.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Rex E.

I don't and you know that but many liberal I know personally believe they are do some of the money of folks that go to work everyday. It's not that they can't work it's just they feel they should not have to and that people who do work should be more than willing to "spread the love"

Why should you get "holiday pay" that is just religious bullshit you don't believe in so why should you get it. Now if you were a Christian or of some other religion and believed then I could see your argument but since your not you should not even be interested in that money to begin with.

New Years Eve and the 4th of July are religious holidays?

Besides, I'm sure the next time your employer gives you a day of with pay, or a bonus, or whatever, you'll just hand it right back to him with a smile, because you're concerned he might not be able to pay his gas bill.

Spare me this sort of bullshit.

Dave

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

EXCELLENT POST! Tell me, Barney. Why do you think it is?

Dave

The fact that most jobs with any type of retirement now have 401K's instead of a defined benefit retirement. The 401K was initially meant as a supplemental for executives defined benefit plan. Not as a stand alone retirement plan.

Employment is going the way of contract employees or less then full time hours to eliminate benefits. When benefits are offered the cost and coverage goes up every year. While pay is lucky to stay the same.

As the unions get weaker the employer will naturally push the boundaries. With no push back what is to stop them from taking more and more. The reason government jobs look so good now is the private sector job losses in pay and benefits over the years.

Do we as a society want a downward spiral for the vast majority just so a lucky privilege few can benefit? You now take from the poor to give to the rich! Just another way of saying "Trickle-down economics" or "the trickle-down theory". It not jobs or money I feel trickling down right now!

Originally Posted by Rex E.

And why is it when some look at what others have they say "I should not have to earn that but the Gov't should give me a large part of what they have earned"

See how that works....

What my point was why should it be like winning the lottery to have a good paying job with a benefit package? All jobs should have benefits attached, this way it would be a equal playing field for all employers. Companies can now and do file bankruptcy to raid the fully funded retirement plans knowing the government will pick up the tab. When that happens who's fault is it? The employee's?? I say the executives who play the system at all of ours expenses.

The ones at the top of society use more of the nations resources so should be willing to pay their fair share. By this I mean they take advantage of things like the country's education system used to train their employees. The roads and other infrastructures associated with running a business.





Barney

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Were you depending on SS for your retirement?
Stop blaming others and build your own retirement.
I can't help it that whatever your employer offers you is inadequate.

Dave

LMAO!

But, I expect SS for my retirement because they take my money and tell me that's what it's for.

Pete