Abortion Duel

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

It's not abortion pills. It's birth control pills.

Birth control pills are before conception. Abortion pills are after conception.

But, the whole Roe V Wade ruling made no sense because you really have to make bizarre mental contortions to find a right to abortion in the constitution.

It is just not in there. Pro or con.
Elected leaders need to make laws.

Some circuit court judge can determine that termination after conception is technically abortion.
But, seems meaningless in most states that don't prohibit abortion for several weeks at least.


North Carolina where I live has a Republican Legislature with a veto proof majority and we have 20 weeks to figure out what you want to do. Nothing has changed.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Birth control pills are before conception. Abortion pills are after conception.

But, the whole Roe V Wade ruling made no sense because you really have to make bizarre mental contortions to find a right to abortion in the constitution.

It is just not in there. Pro or con.
Elected leaders need to make laws.

Some circuit court judge can determine that termination after conception is technically abortion.
But, seems meaningless in most states that don't prohibit abortion for several weeks at least.


North Carolina where I live has a Republican Legislature with a veto proof majority and we have 20 weeks to figure out what you want to do. Nothing has changed.

My point was just to respond to the assertion that abortion pills have had a huge impact on birthrate. They have not. The other pills have.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

My point was just to respond to the assertion that abortion pills have had a huge impact on birthrate. They have not. The other pills have.

OK. I see Desantis signed a bill to limit abortion to six weeks.

Hell, some women normally may go six weeks between periods occasionally.

I think that is a little extreme. I also think an abortion the day before or during birth is extreme.

I think 15 to 20 weeks is a balance probably 80% of the population can deal with. Less the fanatics on both sides.

[Mark B]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

OK. I see Desantis signed a bill to limit abortion to six weeks.

Hell, some women normally may go six weeks between periods occasionally.

I think that is a little extreme. I also think an abortion the day before or during birth is extreme.

I think 15 to 20 weeks is a balance probably 80% of the population can deal with. Less the fanatics on both sides.

Third trimester abortions are only done when the mothers life is threatened AND the fetus is not viable. When the fetus is viable it will be delivered surgically, not aborted.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

OK. I see Desantis signed a bill to limit abortion to six weeks.

Hell, some women normally may go six weeks between periods occasionally.

I think that is a little extreme. I also think an abortion the day before or during birth is extreme.

I think 15 to 20 weeks is a balance probably 80% of the population can deal with. Less the fanatics on both sides.

"I also think an abortion the day before or during birth is extreme."
Needs more straw...

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by bobabode

"I also think an abortion the day before or during birth is extreme."
Needs more straw...

As usual, he is rabble rousing. Abortions after 20 weeks are extremely rare and usually due to medical reasons, not a yea/nay choice by the women.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

As usual, he is rabble rousing. Abortions after 20 weeks are extremely rare and usually due to medical reasons, not a yea/nay choice by the women.

Said nothing about the reason why, just a period society might agree on.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Said nothing about the reason why, just a period society might agree on.

So, when confronted with your shitfilled lie you dissemble with some lame excuse. You really haven't changed one bit after getting a new lease on life, Robbie m'lad.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Said nothing about the reason why, just a period society might agree on.

Since Roe vs Wade we had consensus about abortions until the Catholic Supreme Court decided to upend Roe vs Wade and leave it up to the states. Why now must a single Federal judge decide for the whole country? Or for a Forced Birthers court of appeals partially side with this judge, again deciding for the whole country when its now up to the states?

My issue is not just with abortion but activist judges not leaving this up to the states. And we know this is to prevent women from states which ban abortions seeking abortions in other states.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

As usual, he is rabble rousing. Abortions after 20 weeks are extremely rare and usually due to medical reasons, not a yea/nay choice by the women.

Anti-abortionists would have people believe that there are abortion doctors out there murdering babies at birth.