Is Today's Trumpist GOP Fascist?

[Oerets]

I know, I know they are a cowardly lot. Talk big and need crowds of similar believers be happy. The more Trump MAGA Bling the better.

Pitiful yet scary all at the same time. When their world collapses and reality sets in. They will fight back to regain the fairy tale.

[bobabode]

They will lose.

Like Ruby Ridge and Waco.

[finnbow]

“Fascism in power is a compound, a powerful amalgam of different but marriageable conservative, national soci@list, and radical right ingredients, bonded together by common enemies and common passions for a regenerated, energized and purified nation, whatever the cost to free institutions and the rule of law.”

All of that scans quite neatly onto the rhetoric and atmospherics of modern-day Republicanism, as Katz himself lays out in his essay.

“The danger is not that American fascism will necessarily or even probably turn out like Italian Fascism — or German, Syrian, Argentinian, or any other. We are not going to live a shot-for-shot remake of the Holocaust or the Second World War,” Katz wrote. Rather, he continued, “the danger would be in the triumph of an exclusionary, violent, anti-democratic cult of personality, which by definition will not be dislodged through elections, politics, or civil debate.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...rican-history/

[whell]

Biden's and your messaging is apparently getting though to the wingnut followers:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...nem-story.html

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

Biden's and your messaging is apparently getting though to the wingnut followers:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...nem-story.html

If the jackboot fits ...

You've been suspiciously quiet on this thread. Perhaps review the two links in the OP and provide specific feedback as to why you think lots of reputable political scientists are wrong about their views that the GOP is sliding toward fascism (other than "it can't be fascist because I, an upstanding citizen, belong to it and I don't self-identify as fascist").

The amount of butt-hurt squealing about this from the same people who call Democrats "Marxist, soci@list, antifa groomers who hate America" or some such BS is pretty funny IMO. Even Bernie, who self identifies as a soci@list doesn't actually advocate for soci@lism (defined as "state ownership of the means of production").

[finnbow]

“Fascists. They are fascists,” he said during a speech. “Some of them, not all of them, but some of them, but they’re getting closer and closer.”

A strong assertion, certainly, but one that barely rippled the surface of the water. Because the president offering that hyperbolic assessment was Donald Trump, two years ago this month. It was one of several times that he would deride Democrats as fascists, even excluding his July 4, 2020, retweet describing a “fascist Democratic Party that wants us to … hate America.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...5E6GDQSMV6S75M

So, Biden calls MAGA Republicans "semi-fascists" and GOP politicians get all indignant and butt-hurt. However, Trump called Democrats "fascists" and Democrats didn't even shrug, knowing full well the label didn't fit. In short, a stuck pig squeals and claims "victimhood".

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

“Fascists. They are fascists,” he said during a speech. “Some of them, not all of them, but some of them, but they’re getting closer and closer.”

A strong assertion, certainly, but one that barely rippled the surface of the water. Because the president offering that hyperbolic assessment was Donald Trump, two years ago this month. It was one of several times that he would deride Democrats as fascists, even excluding his July 4, 2020, retweet describing a “fascist Democratic Party that wants us to … hate America.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...5E6GDQSMV6S75M

So, Biden calls MAGA Republicans "semi-fascists" and GOP politicians get all indignant and butt-hurt. However, Trump called Democrats "fascists" and Democrats didn't even shrug, knowing full well the label didn't fit. In short, a stuck pig squeals and claims "victimhood".

The left calling the right Nazis and Fascists is nothing new. It's been going on for years. The left didn't react to Trump making the accusation because maybe they were comfortable with the label, or maybe because they have no defense for the claim.

Trump threw out the term on the campaign trail. Biden used the term as a statement of policy /position. There is quite a difference.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

The left calling the right Nazis and Fascists is nothing new. It's been going on for years. The left didn't react to Trump making the accusation because maybe they were comfortable with the label, or maybe because they have no defense for the claim.

Yeh, that's it for sure. You clowns call Democrats both fascist and antifa (anti-fascist) concurrently. And they ignore you because they know you're unhinged, poorly educated cultists with no grasp of history or political science.

Trump threw out the term on the campaign trail. Biden used the term as a statement of policy /position. There is quite a difference.

Trump was on the campaign then and Biden is on the midterm campaign trail now. The only difference is that what Biden said was true and what Trump said wasn't. And that's why the GOP is so butt-hurt about it. And no it is not a policy.

Do you enjoy being beaten like a rented mule?

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by whell

The left calling the right Nazis and Fascists is nothing new. It's been going on for years. The left didn't react to Trump making the accusation because maybe they were comfortable with the label, or maybe because they have no defense for the claim.

Trump threw out the term on the campaign trail. Biden used the term as a statement of policy /position. There is quite a difference.

Biden is speaking to a DNC Fundraising event.

So what's the difference? None.

At a Democratic National Committee fundraising event in Bethesda, Md., last week, Biden said the U.S. was seeing “either the beginning or the death knell of an extreme MAGA philosophy.”

“It’s not just [former President] Trump, it’s the entire philosophy that underpins the — I’m going to say something, it’s like semi-fascism,” the president said.

Perhaps you should organize a walk out at Biden's next event.

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-...scist-comment/

[donquixote99]

Indeed. Miss pig, no squeal.