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01-21-2013, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HatchetJack
Bad judgment using the President's kids as an example imo. But they do have a
point even though they went about it the wrong way.
All High School athletic events have armed police officers yet every morning
I drop my kids off at school the only cop in sight is 1/2 mile down the road
writing speeding tickets to, well, mostly parents trying to make the 8:00
buzzer.
Even the threat of there "might" be an armed guard on site would save more
lives than another "assault"? weapons ban.
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I'm still waiting for the detailed description from anyone on how the armed guard at Columbine stopped what happened there...or was that just a "one off"?
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01-21-2013, 07:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HatchetJack
Bad judgment using the President's kids as an example imo. But they do have a
point even though they went about it the wrong way.
All High School athletic events have armed police officers yet every morning
I drop my kids off at school the only cop in sight is 1/2 mile down the road
writing speeding tickets to, well, mostly parents trying to make the 8:00
buzzer.
Even the threat of there "might" be an armed guard on site would save more
lives than another "assault"? weapons ban.
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Paranoid schizophrenics and sociopaths are not deterred by armed guards or the death penalty in case you haven't noticed. It is the same principle as the Al-Quaeda terrorist who wears a vest of explosives ...if they do not care about their own life you cannot really stop them from harming others.
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01-21-2013, 09:13 AM
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He's through
Pete
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He won't need the Teabaggers and other far-right whackos if he can pull in centrists, independents and the handful of sane Republicans left knocking around. Heck, if he keeps it up, he might even get..............me.
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01-21-2013, 07:33 PM
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I do not think the GOP is going to give Christie the nomination. He runs as an independent or becomes a Democrat. Is Christie the last hope of the moderates in the GOP? Or does he become the coup de grace that destroys the Republican Party at the national level...
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01-22-2013, 07:06 AM
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Excellent article in the latest TIME regarding armed guards and their training - or lack thereof. Any one recall that shoot out in NYC where the trained police managed to wound several innocent bystanders. Think about any police action you read about in the papers - it is obvious the cops are not buying their own ammunition.
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01-22-2013, 07:59 AM
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I somewhat agree Rob. It's like any profession, some are committed, and some should be
Quote:
Originally Posted by icenine
Paranoid schizophrenics and sociopaths are not deterred by armed guards or the death penalty in case you haven't noticed. It is the same principle as the Al-Quaeda terrorist who wears a vest of explosives ...if they do not care about their own life you cannot really stop them from harming others.
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There is one very good way to stop them - you kill them.
Pete
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01-22-2013, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
There is one very good way to stop them - you kill them.
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They kill themselves. Are you suggesting that when we find someone who is crazy, we kill them as a preventative measure?
Regards,
D-Ray
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01-22-2013, 09:27 AM
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They kill themselves. Are you suggesting that when we find someone who is crazy, we kill them as a preventative measure?
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D-Ray
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It is reversed in Pete's alternative universe ....foresight is 20/20.
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01-22-2013, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
There is one very good way to stop them - you kill them.
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This is one of the reasons conversations dealing with this subject have so little success. Comments like the above crop up all the time. It really doesn't matter whether they're intended to be taken seriously or whether they're supposed to be funny. They're pretty effective conversations either way.
John
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01-22-2013, 09:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I somewhat agree Rob. It's like any profession, some are committed, and some should be
There is one very good way to stop them - you kill them.
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Up until the school shootings of the past are not most offenders seemingly law abiding citizens? Kinda of hard to see into the future and be 100% correct all the time. But getting rid of high power, capacity weapons from getting into their hands would! (IMHO!)
Barney
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