US Tax Breaks Help Fund Israeli Settlements

[merrylander]

And Iranian oil money funds Hamas - to effing bad the world can't keep their noses out

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

And Iranian oil money funds Hamas - to effing bad the world can't keep their noses out

I don't think you'd like the outcome if Iran were to cut Hamas loose and we were to do the same to Israel.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by merrylander

And Iranian oil money funds Hamas - to effing bad the world can't keep their noses out

So, you're comparing West Bank settlers to Hamas?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, you're comparing West Bank settlers to Hamas?

Not on purpose.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by finnbow

So, you're comparing West Bank settlers to Hamas?

Both Palestine and Israel are man made creations, Palestine did not exist prior to 1920, Hell we could go all the way back to the Diaspora to determine who rightfully owns the land, we as North Americans are really in no position to pass judgement.

I suspect that at the root of much of the criticism of Israel and the Jews is based on their finally saying - Enough! As long as they docilely accepted persecution everything was fine. But when the Warsaw Ghetto rose up against the Nazis it hit the fan. Suddenly we had a generation that would not simply roll over.

And let's face it antisemitism is a long way from dead. That South African Judge who wrote the report unilaterally condemning Israel of war crimes had to withdraw or revise it. (I would go find the link but if I try VBulletin erases what I have typed)

The middle east is a f**king mess and my British cousins and the French can accept a lot of the blame.

[Dondilion]

Israel has created enough facts on the ground to absorb the West Bank.

The Israelis are able to do this despite the grumblings of US administrations,
because of:
The powerful positions of American Jews and Jewish sympathizers in the economic, social and political life of the US.

Suicide bombings, 9/11, and televised beheadings have created a significant US antipathy to Muslims.

The resilience of Likud with its hard right policies has made it very difficult for Israel to be influenced by outsiders seeking a better deal for Palestinians.

I believe the only area Palestinians will be able to 'govern' is Gaza.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Both Palestine and Israel are man made creations

All states are man-made creations. Many of the problems with Israel stem from their insistence that their state, uniquely among all others, was ordained by God. This is, of course, unverifiable. Moreover, it's pure magical thinking and gives Israelis permission to act as if they have a divine right to act in any way they wish to.