[QUOTE=budgetaudio6;102781]i would love to try tubes. But havent been able to get into it on cheap.QUOTE]
The way I stumbled into tubes was an old Magnavox console my brother in law drag over to my place. It has a push pull stereo (12AX7 to 6V6 outputs.)
It is a fairly common unit that Magnavox produced in huge numbers. Arguably best of these mid fi console amps is the 175 model which is super easy to upgrade to a stand alone power amp.
I've since upgraded to a set of monoblock Magnavox's which are biamped from
1957.
Keep an eye out for one of the 'Maggotbox' consoles and you'll have a tube amp that sings for little coin and not too much work.