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Old 05-05-2014, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JCricket View Post
The Ansar Beit al-Maqdis is a militant terrorist group. But it is not Al-quaida inspired.

They come from the "Muslim Brotherhood", a group founded in 1928.

They may share some of the same principles even, but they are not inspired by al-Quaida. To use the term "al-quaida inspired" is simply an emotional shocker to get people mad. It amounts to a lie in my book. It is a fear tactic and has no place in factual reporting.

As such, I deem Fox unreliable.
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I have to call you on this one. First I never said "tied", I said inspired, just as the link(which was to fox btw) to the story you posted said. In fact,

I think the Muslim Brotherhood "may" have inspired al-Qaida. Lets be exact on our details here.

Second, the response above in red was completely and totally uncalled for. It was rude and unproductive. D-Ray said nothing about discrediting you in anyway. That was a spin YOU put in framed as an attack on him. I respectfully ask you back up and examine why you did this.
Thank you.
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The brotherhood funds them, this is what I mean.

The brotherhood is not inspired by al-Qaida,
but rather supports them. These are two different things. Is it the cart then the horse or the horse and then the cart?

Using "al-Qaida" is done, IMHO, simply because the American people know the term and hate it. It is used as a way to capture the audience. It is less than exact in accuracy though.
Ok to start far too many contradiction and word semantics but that's ok.
In my search I could only find one reference linking Ansar Beit al-Maqdis to the Muslim Brotherhood. If you have anything please link it otherwise it's just your opinion. And what I found below was a person with a bone to pick.


Ansar Bait al-Maqdis (ABM, Arabic: أنصار بيت المقدس‎,or Supporters of the Holy House) (also known as Ansar Jerusalem, meaning "Supporters of Jerusalem")[4][5] is an active militant group that has been operating in the Sinai Peninsula[6] since the overthrow of Egyptian Revolution of 2011, with its operations increasing in the wake of the overthrow of Mohammed Morsi in July 2013.[2]
The group is believed to be the main group behind the militant activity in the Sinai.[7] The group recruits Bedouins as well as other Egyptians and people of other nationalities.[7] Nabil Na'eem, a former member of Egyptian Islamic Jihad, has claimed that the group is funded by the Muslim Brotherhood's deputy chairman Khairat al-Shater.[8] Ten leaders from the group were reported to have escaped from the Sinai to Gaza and Marsa Matrouh in late 2013.[9] It was designated as a terrorist organization by the US State Department on 9 April 2014.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ansar_Bait_al-Maqdis


You must have a bone to pick also with the desire to run the talking point (Fox Lies).

Again Fox ran a news report from, Published May 04, 2014 Associated Press CAIRO.

As did all these other world news source. They are not all the same incedent but all refer to Al-Qaeda-inspired terrorist group Ansar Beit Al-Maqdis claimed responsibility.

http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/0...inai-bombings/

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article...aspx?id=216404

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Mid...#axzz30qi5UsPe

http://www.timesofisrael.com/militan...sinai-attacks/

http://www.timesofisrael.com/attacks...idential-vote/


Now none of this was the intention of the post but the direction you want to take it for what ever reason.

My though was a terrorist group pointing their finger at a Regime being "Oppressive".
"The group urged the Egyptian people to "rebel against this oppressive and tyrannical regime" and not resort only to peaceful opposition movements."
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