Originally Posted by BlueStreak
My God, you guys are smart.........
Now, down at my simpleminded level.
Had another interesting conversation at work tonight. A couple of co-workers were discussing the concept of universal healthcare, as I was on the shop computer writing up my shift report. And this is what I hear; "Besides, you know damn well that if that public option thing had passed that employers would just start unloading people onto it by the millions so they don't have to pay for medical insurance anymore." "Yep, and then everyone would be stuck with it for life, no more free choice. And OUR taxes would go up to pay for it all. Fuck that." "Yeah, it's bullshit, why would any workin' stiff want that?"
So, I finish my work, log off the computer, push my chair back and join the conversation.
"Maybe so."
"Maybe so, what, Dave?"
"Maybe our taxes go up some. But consider a few things. First of all, you say employers would dump employees off of their plans."
"Yeah, of course they would."
"And who could blame them, that's a shitload of money, so much that a lot of companies claim that is one of, if not the biggest burden on them financially, right?"
"Right."
"So maybe if they unload this burden they become more competative and able to create more jobs? And what's wrong with that?"
"Our taxes will go up, and we don't get anything for it, fuck that."
"Nothing, Huh? You don't gain coverage you can't lose? You get laid off, it's there. You change jobs, no more waiting for your new coverage to kick in, it's there all the while. You can't be denied for a pre-existing condition. You become disabled and can't work, and it takes you a while to adapt and find another way to support yourself, but you never lose coverage through the entire process----None of this has any value to you guys?"
(Blank stare.)
"None at all, Huh. The status quo sounds superior to this somehow? And, besides, when was the last time either one of you had any real choice anyhow? Think about it, your whole lives you have pretty much had to take the insurance your employer offered or do without. That's about the only fuckin' choice you've ever had. Right?"
As I get up and head back out on the floor to shut my line down for the night, a raised voice behind me says;
"Yeah, well, this is America, and we believe you should have to WORK for the shit! You don't like it go live somewhere else! Ha, ha, ha."
Shaking my head, I calmly reply; "Thanks for the opinion, Rush."
Sheep. Sorry, but that's how I see it. Just a bunch of sheep doing whatever the barking dogs on FauxNews and the EIB Network tell them to.
Regards,
Dave
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