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donquixote99 04-17-2017 09:12 AM

Lessons for Now From History
 
Historian Tim Snyder says we don't pay enough attention to history. Well, he would, wouldn't he, but he seems to me to have some vital points. Basically, history tells us that free countries can 'go authoritarian' with great speed. Happened this weekend in Turkey, for example.

History never repeats exactly, but what has happened before can happen again, and often does. Snyder suggests 'it can happen here,' and offers a set of twenty lessons for what to think, and, very importantly, what to do. I'm going to put up a lesson a day.

But, you can read all twenty right now, here. Or you might even buy Snyder's book.

donquixote99 04-17-2017 09:17 AM

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1. Do not obey in advance. Much of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then start to do it without being asked. You've already done this, haven't you? Stop. Anticipatory obedience teaches authorities what is possible and accelerates unfreedom.
An example would include reluctance to go publicly 'on the record' with concerns or opposition to repressive or illegal administration policies.

BlueStreak 04-17-2017 09:54 AM

Trust me; No anticipatory obedience here.

Everybody in my world well knows what I think of their king.

Fuck you, Trump!

donquixote99 04-17-2017 10:01 AM

Right on, brother!

icenine 04-17-2017 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 352271)
Trust me; No anticipatory obedience here.

Everybody in my world well knows what I think of their king.

Fuck you, Trump!

Yeah!!

MrPots 04-17-2017 04:12 PM

I'm in.....

donquixote99 04-18-2017 06:34 AM

Lesson Two from historian Tim Snyder:

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2. Defend an institution. Follow the courts or the media, or a court or a newspaper. Do not speak of “our institutions” unless you are making them yours by acting on their behalf. Institutions don't protect themselves. They go down like dominoes unless each is defended from the beginning.
Don't let the NY Times fail.

Dondilion 04-18-2017 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 352282)
Lesson Two from historian Tim Snyder:



Don't let the NY Times fail.

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The Times They Are A Changing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ

donquixote99 04-18-2017 09:23 PM

Really Gonna Miss You

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpMDU9NcKq4

donquixote99 04-19-2017 06:57 AM

Lesson Three from historian Tim Snyder:

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3. Recall professional ethics. When the leaders of state set a negative example, professional commitments to just practice become much more important. It is hard to break a rule-of-law state without lawyers, and it is hard to have show trials without judges.
Isolate the bad guys by being sure to walk the walk.


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