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donquixote99 03-10-2019 08:13 AM

Some Dems have always been hawks, and fanaticism about free speech is pretty much a function of who is clubbing who.

donquixote99 03-10-2019 08:16 AM

Ordinate fear is a useful spur to necessary action. Inordinate fear leads to paralysis and denial. That’s how you tell them apart.

Jack Horner 03-10-2019 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 377593)
Indeed.
That is why I could never understand the inordinate fear of Trump to the point where the Dems have become opposites of themselves...such as warmongers, anti free speech fanatics.

The American system has enough check and balance to tie up any president.

Not when one party controls all three branches.

Dondilion 03-10-2019 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Horner (Post 377617)
Not when one party controls all three branches.

Judges and media have a lot of power in the system.
With a 2 year political cycle in play, it is easy to outflank a president.

donquixote99 03-11-2019 11:10 AM

A lot of authoritarian cards remain unplayed. Let's hope they remain so.

Jack Horner 03-11-2019 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 377627)
Judges and media have a lot of power in the system.
With a 2 year political cycle in play, it is easy to outflank a president.

Not when a President has support from congress. There wasn't a damned thing the DEMs could do about that tax bill in 2017.

Dondilion 03-11-2019 04:54 PM

Check how many times judges have thwarted Trump.

Jack Horner 03-11-2019 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 377665)
Check how many times judges have thwarted Trump.

That was the constitution that thwarted Trump. The judges were just doing their jobs.

Dondilion 03-12-2019 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Horner (Post 377667)
That was the constitution that thwarted Trump. The judges were just doing their jobs.

And so by you there is no variance in interpretation.

Jack Horner 03-12-2019 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 377692)
And so by you there is no variance in interpretation.

Trump's BS that got shot down in court was poorly written unconstitutional laws. Sure there is interpretation but these laws had a snowballs chance in hell of surviving. Just like everything else Trump does it was all theatre no substance. If he has actually taken time to craft these policies they may have had a chance. Trump's failures fall squarely on Trump. He needs no help from the courts or anyone else to fail.


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