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catswiththum 09-27-2015 09:03 AM

Opinions from Owners?
 
Looking to buy a compact get-around-town car for Maggie. Charleston streets very narrow and parking is hell - I have whittled it down to the Prius, Fiat 500, and Mini Cooper.

Not buying new, as I don't eat someone else's depreciation any more - something 2 or three years old with 30,000 or less on the clock. As I tinker with old cars, I will only buy from a private owner who is a "car person" (enjoys talking about both the flaws and fixes, has stacks of records).

Will be an automatic (sacrilege).

Anyone have experience with any of them? Thanks!

http://pictures.dealer.com/b/brownsc...6639f9b12a.jpg

http://www.knieselsauto.com/wp-conte...per-Repair.png

http://www.invitationtotuscany.com/c...04/Fiat500.jpg

finnbow 09-27-2015 09:12 AM

I like Mini's, but they're literally the least reliable car on the American road, along with the Jeep Wrangler.

The Prius has absolutely zero soul. My sister bought one and sold it immediately for that very reason.

No personal experience with the Fiat 500, but my son rented one for a week in southern Spain and had a ball.

In terms of build quality, performance, mileage and driving fun, I'd recommend looking at the Mazda3. It's one of Car & Drivers Top 10 (along with some very hot cars). I've owned both the 3 and 6 and both are great cars with among the very lowest depreciation in the business.

Pio1980 09-27-2015 09:43 AM

Prius. Otherwise one of the Japanese or American subcompacts. The Mini and FIAT are imo poor value and durability.

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Boreas 09-27-2015 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 287099)
I like Mini's, but there literally the least reliable car on the American road, along with the Jeep Wrangler.

The Prius has absolutely zero soul. My sister bought one and sold it immediately for that very reason.

No personal experience with the Fiat 500, but my son rented one for a week in southern Spain and had a ball.

In terms of build quality, performance, mileage and driving fun, I'd recommend looking at the Mazda3. It's one of Car & Drivers Top 10 (along with some very hot cars). I've owned both the 3 and 6 and both are great cars with among the very lowest depreciation in the business.

The Prius isn't all that small either. The Fiat wins that prize. And I agree with finn. The Mazda3 is the way to go. It's a little screamer.

Boreas 09-27-2015 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 287099)
I like Mini's...........

Mini's what?:p

Danged Hokies!;)

djv8ga 09-29-2015 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 287102)
Mini's what?:p

Danged Hokies!;)

Are you an owner or just pretending again?

BlueStreak 09-29-2015 10:22 PM

Don't like any of them. Too small, no balls.

Sorry I couldn't help.

Boreas 09-29-2015 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djv8ga (Post 287325)
Are you an owner or just pretending again?

Did you quote the wrong post on purpose or are you just a moron?

djv8ga 09-30-2015 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 287340)
Did you quote the wrong post on purpose or are you just a moron?

Did you read the title of the thread or are you just drunk & without a real life, spending every precious moment you have left in this place? :rolleyes:

Grumpy 10-02-2015 01:38 PM

Have you considered a Toyota Yaris ? Got my wife one back in 2008 and its been a great car. Gets dam near the same mileage as the Prius and no worries about silly expensive batteries. We have owned it since new and only had one serious issue with the trans and the dealer replaced it free of charge. Otherwise been nothing but maintenance and fill it with gas and let me tell ya it sure is nice filling that 9 gal tank when gas hits 4-5 bucks a gal. We average about 42-43 mpg on long trips with the AC going. Not too shabby..

Rajoo 10-02-2015 04:49 PM

I was thinking the same thing. We bought a new 2004 Civic Hybrid but those days a $7,500 tax credit was in play here in CA. Best I could get out of it was 36 mpg and always wondered it the difference in price between a conventional engine and hybrid was worth it.

We then bought an Mini Cooper (2008?) after she totaled the Civic and the Mini is going strong but she babies it and only drives if she cannot take one of our cars. So no idea what the long term reliability is going to be or how many miles on it.

Pio1980 10-02-2015 05:19 PM

Friend really wanted a Mini and bought one. Turned out to be a costly mistake, he took a not inconsequential loss to finally get rid of it.
Now he's back to bimmers, go figure.

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Rajoo 10-02-2015 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 287710)
Friend really wanted a Mini and bought one. Turned out to be a costly mistake, he took a not inconsequential loss to finally get rid of it.
Now he's back to bimmers, go figure.

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Did your friend know that the Mini is a 'mini-bimmer'? :)

Pio1980 10-02-2015 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 287730)
Did your friend know that the Mini is a 'mini-bimmer'? :)

"La la la" (fingers in ears), he can't hear you.

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Grumpy 10-03-2015 12:34 AM

Mini are very cool but I have a problem with any car that you have to call a tow truck when ya get a flat. No spare is silly, but there's no room for one..

Pio1980 10-03-2015 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Grumpy (Post 287779)
Mini are very cool but I have a problem with any car that you have to call a tow truck when ya get a flat. No spare is silly, but there's no room for one..

They give a can of Fix-A-Flat with the car?

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JJIII 10-03-2015 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grumpy (Post 287779)
Mini are very cool but I have a problem with any car that you have to call a tow truck when ya get a flat. No spare is silly, but there's no room for one..

Just pick it up and carry it to the shop! :)

Pio1980 10-03-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 287836)
Just pick it up and carry it to the shop! :)

Or kick it there, assuming exasperation and local dealer/service. Drop kick if further.

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Boreas 10-03-2015 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 287836)
Just pick it up and carry it to the shop! :)

Have you ever seen a "Mini" next to a real Mini? The fake ones aren't really so small.

http://images.caradisiac.com/images/...car-255279.jpg

JJIII 10-03-2015 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 287886)
Have you ever seen a "Mini" next to a real Mini? The fake ones aren't really so small.

http://images.caradisiac.com/images/...car-255279.jpg

I used to go to a hill climb event at Chimney Rock in the hills of North Carolina. One year it was raining pretty hard and the Mini-Coopers were king of the hill. Light weight and front wheel drive ruled the day.

http://www.chimneyrockpark.com/event...gofthehill.pdf



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catswiththum 10-03-2015 12:52 PM

I need a Humvee with a snorkel - downtown Charleston completely flooded.

Tom Joad 10-03-2015 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 287972)
I need a Humvee with a snorkel - downtown Charleston completely flooded.

From Jaoquin?

Or something else?

catswiththum 10-03-2015 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 287982)
From Jaoquin?

Or something else?

No - hurricane a non issue, won't get 700 miles from us. Low pressure system sitting on us for 2 days dumping non stop rain plus abnormally high tides.

Downtown 6 feet below sea level. They spend millions on new drainage every year trying to defy the laws of physics.

And now my back porch roof is leaking.

finnbow 10-03-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 287990)
No - hurricane a non issue, won't get 700 miles from us. Low pressure system sitting on us for 2 days dumping non stop rain plus abnormally high tides.

Downtown 6 feet below sea level. They spend millions on new drainage every year trying to defy the laws of physics.

And now my back porch roof is leaking.

It seems South Carolina may receive a 1000-year rainfall.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-this-weekend/

catswiththum 10-03-2015 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 288003)
It seems South Carolina may receive a 1000-year rainfall.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-this-weekend/

Noah is in our kitchen having a ham sandwich. I hid the cats.

finnbow 10-03-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 288011)
Noah is in our kitchen having a ham sandwich. I hid the cats.

I lived in New Orleans when it rained 17" in one day (~May 1978). It was the day I took my oral finals for my masters at Tulane. I walked from work to Tulane (about 7-8 blocks) in waist deep water. My professors (who were stuck on campus) said I could postpone, but I had nothing better to do, plus Tulane was on my way home (I had to leave my car at work).

catswiththum 10-03-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 288013)
I lived in New Orleans when it rained 17" in one day (~May 1978). It was the day I took my oral finals for my masters at Tulane. I walked from work to Tulane (about 7-8 blocks) in waist deep water. My professors (who were stuck on campus) said I could postpone, but I had nothing better to do, plus Tulane was on my way home (I had to leave my car at work).

You are fortunate your legs didn't rot and fall off from walking in that garbage soup.

Boreas 10-03-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 287901)
I used to go to a hill climb event at Chimney Rock in the hills of North Carolina. One year it was raining pretty hard and the Mini-Coopers were king of the hill. Light weight and front wheel drive ruled the day.

http://www.chimneyrockpark.com/event...gofthehill.pdf




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Jeeze! I remember those! There was another hillclimb in Duryea, Pennsylvania back then. That was pretty cool too.

BUT! For a real hillclimb, you have to go to Pike's Peak. Truly scary!

Boreas 10-03-2015 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 287990)
No - hurricane a non issue, won't get 700 miles from us. Low pressure system sitting on us for 2 days dumping non stop rain plus abnormally high tides.

Downtown 6 feet below sea level. They spend millions on new drainage every year trying to defy the laws of physics.

And now my back porch roof is leaking.

I don't think Joaquin is a total non-issue. The rain that low is pulling in is from Joaquin I think.

Boreas 10-03-2015 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 288011)
Noah is in our kitchen having a ham sandwich. I hid the cats.

Ham???

JJIII 10-03-2015 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 288022)
Jeeze! I remember those! There was another hillclimb in Duryea, Pennsylvania back then. That was pretty cool too.

BUT! For a real hillclimb, you have to go to Pike's Peak. Truly scary!

My best friend since high school prepped a bike for Pike's Peak and then dropped over dead just a short time before the event, three years ago. Another friend took the bike and ran it in David's memory, but he wasn't near the rider David was. Still, a nice gesture.

catswiththum 10-03-2015 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 288024)
Ham???

Pre-Abraham. B-B-Q OK.

Tom Joad 10-04-2015 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 287990)
Downtown 6 feet below sea level. They spend millions on new drainage every year trying to defy the laws of physics.

Funny, I haven't heard any bagger talk of abandoning Charleston because it's below sea level like there was of New Orleans.

Oh, wait!

Charleston is a center of WHITE culture!

catswiththum 10-04-2015 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 288146)
Funny, I haven't heard any bagger talk of abandoning Charleston because it's below sea level like there was of New Orleans.

Oh, wait!

Charleston is a center of WHITE culture!

Hahaha. If nothing else, you are dependable.

It's a mess down here, but the good outweighs the bad through the calendar year.

Actually, although only getting the academic and social recognition it deserves in the past 50 years, Charleston is one of the centers of black culture.

Google Gullah, Geechie, or Avery research center.

The black population is the majority in Charleston county and a political and financial force.

http://www.geechieboymill.com/wp-con...nRightImg1.png

Boreas 10-04-2015 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 288192)
Hahaha. If nothing else, you are dependable.

It's a mess down here, but the good outweighs the bad through the calendar year.

Actually, although only getting the academic and social recognition it deserves in the past 50 years, Charleston is one of the centers of black culture.

Google Gullah, Geechie, or Avery research center.

The black population is the majority in Charleston county and a political and financial force.

http://www.geechieboymill.com/wp-con...nRightImg1.png

I always thought the Gullah culture was fundamentally rural.

catswiththum 10-04-2015 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 288202)
I always thought the Gullah culture was fundamentally rural.

The origins certainly are, and very few young people can speak the language any more - I don't try to speak it but I understand it when spoken.

The sweetgrass basketmaking has survived and thrived on the lowcountry coast; art form brought by the captured slaves from mostly Sierra Leone, it is still handed down from one generation to the next.

They fetch big money - I have a closet full of them, couldn't afford them now.

Tom Joad 10-04-2015 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 288192)
The black population is the majority in Charleston county and a political and financial force.

http://www.geechieboymill.com/wp-con...nRightImg1.png

Since when is 28.6% a majority?


http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/45/45019.html

Sucks having someone like me around to check stuff you say doesn't it?

catswiththum 10-04-2015 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 288234)
Since when is 28.6% a majority?


http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/45/45019.html

Sucks having someone like me around to check stuff you say doesn't it?

Well, I'll be darned - I was sure the black population was still a majority.

And actually, I should have checked - good call.

Tom Joad 10-04-2015 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 288255)
Well, I'll be darned - I was sure the black population was still a majority.

And actually, I should have checked - good call.

I understand.

When a preppy white boy like you finds himself in a place were 28% of the people around him are black he probably does feel outnumbered. :eek:

catswiththum 10-04-2015 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 288266)
I understand.

When a preppy white boy like you finds himself in a place were 28% of the people around him are black he probably does feel outnumbered. :eek:

Damn - you were not kidding - you are angry all the time.

But the "boy" part I appreciate.


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