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whell 07-08-2018 08:23 AM

Trudeau Tatoo'd by Me Too
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-wo...18.html?bcmt=1

Trudeau groped her in 2000. He must have been, what, like 5 at the time?

finnbow 07-08-2018 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373570)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-wo...18.html?bcmt=1

Trudeau groped her in 2000. He must have been, what, like 5 at the time?

That's Canada's problem. Trump is our problem, though that doesn't serve your desires for misdirection, equivalency and projection.

Pio1980 07-09-2018 08:55 AM

Woman Allegedly Groped By Justin Trudeau Breaks Her Silence https://n.pr/2NwQiTI

whell 07-11-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373573)
That's Canada's problem. Trump is our problem, though that doesn't serve your desires for misdirection, equivalency and projection.

You did notice that this was the "Global Discussion" section of the forum, right? Its not the "Finn wants to change the subject of every thread to Trump" section. :rolleyes:

bobabode 07-11-2018 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373667)
You did notice that this was the "Global Discussion" section of the forum, right? Its not the "Finn wants to change the subject of every thread to Trump" section. :rolleyes:

So, the socalled leader of the free world isn't a player on the world stage? I can see why you don't want anyone to talk about your *resident Pussy Grabber, Mike. I'd be embarrassed too if I had to defend a crook like Derp Donald.

whell 07-11-2018 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 373668)
So, the socalled leader of the free world isn't a player on the world stage?

Pretty lame attempt to defend a case of deflection and false equivalence. There you go again applying different standards to different forum members. :rolleyes:

bobabode 07-11-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373670)
Pretty lame attempt to defend a case of deflection and false equivalence. There you go again applying different standards to different forum members. :rolleyes:

Once again, you resort to lies when called out. Sure must suck to be you Mike.

finnbow 07-11-2018 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 373589)
Woman Allegedly Groped By Justin Trudeau Breaks Her Silence https://n.pr/2NwQiTI

In other words, there's nothing worthy of discussion here other than Whell's desire to somehow extricate Trump from his sexual assault and campaign finance problems at the expense of Trudeau. Fail.

whell 07-12-2018 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 373671)
Once again, you resort to lies when called out. Sure must suck to be you Mike.

What's my "lie', Bobby?

Let's see....

I opened a threat on the "Global" forum about Justin T getting grabby with a(nother?) woman. That's no lie, since he's apologized for it.

Finn then attempted to change the subject (deflection?) to Trump. Apparently, just by posting about a topic other than Trump is a "deflection" in Finn's tiny little world.

I responded by calling Finn on trying to change the subject. That's no lie. Its exactly what he was trying to do.

You then showed up and defended the attempt to change the subject. You've also chastised me in previous threads for employing such "logical fallacies", and suggested that you and Don had worked so hard to get me not to use them. Yet, here you are in this thread being - again - hypocritical. I pointed that out. Its no lie. Its fact.

So, color me confused. Where did I "lie", Bobster?

whell 07-12-2018 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373672)
In other words, there's nothing worthy of discussion here other than Whell's desire to somehow extricate Trump from his sexual assault and campaign finance problems at the expense of Trudeau. Fail.

Nah. What's failing is your desire to employ a false equivalence in this thread.

whell 07-12-2018 10:13 AM

Love this article:

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/7...gation-scandal

Justin Trudeau’s attempt to build a political brand on the premise that he is the only non-shitty man ever to live has finally crashed up against the rocks of actual reality. We all make mistakes: sexism has its hooks deep inside all of us. But you also have to own your past ethical failures if you are going to appoint yourself the Grand Inquisitor of sexual harassment. He expelled two MPs from caucus in 2014 at the first hint of sexual impropriety, and routinely justified shooting first and questioning later as the only appropriate response to such allegations from truly committed feminists. Of course, it turns out now that this standard apparently applies to everyone but the prime minister.

Trudeau would be well advised not to wear a heavy crown unless his spine is strong enough to support it. Otherwise, it will start to appear to others that he was always more concerned with a branding exercise than a substantive commitment to justice.


But since you brought it up, Finn:

It always cracks me up that, as public a figure as Trump was, he was never labelled a racist, homophobic or misogynist until he ran for office. Yet those labels are used almost generically by the left when discussing their political opponents. Some of you have attempted to attach those labels to me, yet you know nothing at all about me.

You accuse me of "deflection" in this thread, but isn't that exactly what you're doing trying to change the topic to Trump? Some would cast that as a tacit defense of Trudeau's actions. But not me... :rolleyes:

finnbow 07-12-2018 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373685)
It always cracks me up that, as public a figure as Trump was, he was never labelled a racist, homophobic or misogynist until he ran for office.

What??? Never heard of the Central Park Five? Birtherism? Or him and his dad settling with DOJ for racial discrimination in housing? How about him bragging to Howard Stern about all of his sexual conquests?

Most people didn't pay attention to your Dear Leader until he hit the campaign trail at which time his racism and misogyny were out front for all to see. If you're trying to claim that Trump is not a racist or misogynist, I guess that means that you're unable to discern what these traits actually look like in real life.:confused:

whell 07-12-2018 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373689)
What??? Never heard of the Central Park Five? Birtherism? Or him and his dad settling with DOJ for racial discrimination in housing? How about him bragging to Howard Stern about all of his sexual conquests?

"Birtherism" is only racist if you want to make it racist. Sure, "racism" was a popular way to label folks who challenged Obama's failure to document his birth. Part of that was on Obama, who let that line of discussion go on longer than it needed to.

Now, let's apply your screwed up line of thinking to all of these companies, who have settled claims of race or sex bias with the Feds:

- Dr Pepper Snapple Group will pay $18.3 million in an age discrimination lawsuit judgment. Better not buy any beverages from them, Finn, 'cuz they apparently hate old people.

- Sears will pay $5.2 million in a race discrimination lawsuit judgment. Better not buy anything from Sears, Finn. Oh, wait, no one else does either, so I guess it won't matter.

- Pepsi will pay $3.13 million to settle an EEOC race discrimination lawsuit. "Summer Time is Pepsi Time", Finn, unless you're not white.

- Cook County (Chicago, IL) will pay $7.6 million in a race discrimination lawsuit judgment. I thought the Dems ran Cook County. Oh, well. I guess their racist too. Boycott Chicago.

- D.C. Department of Parks and Recreation (Washington, DC) will pay $3.5 million in a sexual harassment lawsuit judgment. I thought the Dems ran DC? Oh well. Guess you've got to boycott DC now.

- Rite Aid will pay $3.5 million in a disability discrimination lawsuit judgment. I guess you need to be a CVS customer now.

Are all of these entities truly racist, sexist, whatever? Or did they determine it was more expedient to settle. We'll never know. But if we employ your skewed standards, then they're all racist, sexist, whatever and need to be avoided, boycotted, publicly shamed, whatever. Sad, 'cuz Chicago's pretty nice this time of year. :cool:

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373689)
Most people didn't pay attention to your Dear Leader until he hit the campaign trail at which time his racism and misogyny were out front for all to see.

Bullshit. Trump has been a very public figure for many, many years. You and your fellow travelers are simply engaged in a "branding exercise". That's why you responded to this thread the way to did, calling it a "deflection". You didn't want a scenario where Trudeau might diminish the "brand" that you want to apply to Trump.

donquixote99 07-12-2018 02:24 PM

""Birtherism" is only racist if you want to make it racist."

Anyone who actually believes that has lost touch with reality altogether and is totally immersed in ideological narratives.

finnbow 07-12-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373695)
...You and your fellow travelers are simply engaged in a "branding exercise"...

The irony of a Trump cultist like you accusing someone else of engaging in a branding exercise must be lost on you. You must have forgotten about Low Energy Jeb, Little Marco, Lyin' Ted Cruz, Crooked Hillary or Low IQ Maxine. :rolleyes:

You truly are a disingenuous and deluded fool.

whell 07-12-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373698)
The irony of a Trump cultist like you accusing someone else of engaging in a branding exercise must be lost on you. You must have forgotten about Low Energy Jeb, Little Marco, Lyin' Ted Cruz, Crooked Hillary or Low IQ Maxine. :rolleyes:

You truly are a disingenuous and deluded fool.

Pfftt. Like "branding" political opponents was something originated by Trump. :rolleyes:

whell 07-12-2018 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 373696)
""Birtherism" is only racist if you want to make it racist."

Anyone who actually believes that has lost touch with reality altogether and is totally immersed in ideological narratives.

Take it up with your fellow Democrat Andy Martin. :rolleyes:

finnbow 07-12-2018 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373701)
Pfftt. Like "branding" political opponents was something originated by Trump. :rolleyes:

You're the one who brought it up in an attempt to criticize me, without a whiff of irony.:confused: I'm beginning to think that you, like your Dear Leader, get your news from Fox & Friends.

whell 07-12-2018 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373704)
You're the one who brought it up in an attempt to criticize me, without a whiff of irony.:confused: I'm beginning to think that you, like your Dear Leader, get your news from Fox & Friends.

"Without a whiff of irony" it's your sorry ass that continues to insist that this thread is about anything other than Trudeau. But watching your ongoing effort at deflection is hilarious.

donquixote99 07-12-2018 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373705)
"Without a whiff of irony" it's your sorry ass that continues to insist that this thread is about anything other than Trudeau. But watching your ongoing effort at deflection is hilarious.

You so often claim to be extremely amused here. Why don't you sound less sour?

whell 07-13-2018 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 373710)
You so often claim to be extremely amused here. Why don't you sound less sour?

If you want me to sound more sour, folks might start mistaking me for you. :rolleyes:

finnbow 07-13-2018 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373705)
"Without a whiff of irony" it's your sorry ass that continues to insist that this thread is about anything other than Trudeau. But watching your ongoing effort at deflection is hilarious.

Perhaps because there is no there there, unlike with your Dear Leader and his over a dozen accusations of sexual assault, not to mention his paying off porn stars and playboy bunnies and then recently hiring a known enabler of a serial sexual predator (Bill Shine). Your attempt to deflect from your Dear Leader's immorality and unfitness for office is a major fail and now you're all whiny about it. Sad.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhc_pzQU0AA4mpo.jpg:small

donquixote99 07-13-2018 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373731)
If you want me to sound more sour, folks might start mistaking me for you. :rolleyes:

Your rubber-glue defense took you away from the truth. Hardly unusual for you, of course. But again, my question was: why don't you sound less sour?

whell 07-13-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 373733)
Your rubber-glue defense took you away from the truth. Hardly unusual for you, of course. But again, my question was: why don't you sound less sour?

Maybe what happened was this: I blew off your question because I don't accept your premise. If you think I sound "sour", maybe you need to look in the mirror and figure out why YOU are attributing "sourness" where none exists.

finnbow 07-13-2018 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373738)
Maybe what happened was this: I blew off your question because I don't accept your premise. If you think I sound "sour", maybe you need to look in the mirror and figure out why YOU are attributing "sourness" where none exists.

I'd say a better adjective for you would be whiny...and disingenuous.

whell 07-13-2018 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373732)
Perhaps because there is no there there, unlike with your Dear Leader and his over a dozen accusations of sexual assault, not to mention his paying off porn stars and playboy bunnies and then recently hiring a known enabler of a serial sexual predator (Bill Shine). Your attempt to deflect from your Dear Leader's immorality and unfitness for office is a major fail and now you're all whiny about it. Sad.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dhc_pzQU0AA4mpo.jpg:small

Still trying to make this thread about Trump, huh? You go, boy! :rolleyes:

whell 07-13-2018 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373739)
I'd say a better adjective for you would be whiny...and disingenuous.

And you continue to reduce the discussion to the level of the least common denominator by calling folks names when your attempts at deflection fall flat. You're priceless. Please keep it up.

finnbow 07-13-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373742)
Still trying to make this thread about Trump, huh? You go, boy! :rolleyes:

Do you actually think that you're clever enough that your lame attempts at distraction and projection aren't transparent?:confused:

Chicks 07-13-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373743)
And you continue to reduce the discussion to the level of the least common denominator by calling folks names.

You should be proud. Name calling is your master Donny’s favorite tactic.

whell 07-13-2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373744)
Do you actually think that you're clever enough that your lame attempts at distraction and projection aren't transparent?:confused:

You are absolutely priceless. I post a thread about Trudeau. You apparently didn't like it because the thread wasn't about Trump. So, YOU change the subject and start talking about Trump in this thread, and then you accuse me of deflection for posting about Trudeau.

You must have learned a lot for George Orwell. :rolleyes:

whell 07-13-2018 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chicks (Post 373745)
You should be proud. Name calling is your master Donny’s favorite tactic.

...and yours. :rolleyes:

finnbow 07-13-2018 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373748)
You are absolutely priceless. I post a thread about Trudeau. You apparently didn't like it because the thread wasn't about Trump. So, YOU change the subject and start talking about Trump in this thread, and then you accuse me of deflection for posting about Trudeau.

You must have learned a lot for George Orwell. :rolleyes:

You're a big enough Trump cultist to believe that the point of my response was to defend Trudeau's behavior at a concert (where the alleged "victim" doesn't seem to care) rather than criticizing you for your shopworn tactics of deflection and projection in the defense of your Dear Leader?

This is akin to your recent posts in which you criticize those protesting Trump's racism and fascist tendencies as being the actual fascists and racists. You're a tool, and a whiny, disingenuous one at that.

whell 07-13-2018 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 373754)
You're a big enough Trump cultist to believe that the point of my response was to defend Trudeau's behavior at a concert (where the alleged "victim" doesn't seem to care) rather than criticizing you for your shopworn tactics of deflection and projection in the defense of your Dear Leader?

This is akin to your recent posts in which you criticize those protesting Trump's racism and fascist tendencies as being the actual fascists and racists. You're a tool, and a whiny, disingenuous one at that.

Didn't say you were "defending" anything. Why do you keep running around suggesting that any comment is a "defense" of something?

All I did was point out, and correctly so, that you tried to change to topic and discuss Trump in a thread about Trudeau. YOU also accused me of deflecting by merely posting something about the accusation against Trudeau.

I think you've tried to spin this thread so hard that you've gotten yourself dizzy.

finnbow 07-13-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by whell (Post 373756)
Didn't say you were "defending" anything. Why do you keep running around suggesting that any comment is a "defense" of something?

All I did was point out, and correctly so, that you tried to change to topic and discuss Trump in a thread about Trudeau. YOU also accused me of deflecting by merely posting something about the accusation against Trudeau.

I think you've tried to spin this thread so hard that you've gotten yourself dizzy.

Womp, womp. You're almost as whiny as your Dear Leader.


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