Republicans don't even care if you know their lying
There's no surprise here but it's just a damn shame. They've sold their souls, morals, integrity to protect Trump after his vile shithole statement. They went from confirming it in private after the meeting to not hearing it to he didn't say it. The balless sycophants make Durbin and Graham look even better. I know it's an often-used phrase but I honestly don't know how they sleep at night. I don't know how their wives can stand to be around them. If I was one of their kids I would be ashamed to have him as my father.
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They have been lying to themselves for so long that truth is a long forgotten memory. The only things that matter to them is getting their way and by any means.
Have no shame or feelings of repentance, only shear arrogance and contempt of others not like them. Barney |
It was hilarious watching Anderson Cooper crying about the word "shithole".
Hey Cooper, that's not a chocolate starfish you're putting your penis in, it's a shithole! |
Those countries are shit holes. If the people there don't like it maybe they should try doing something about it other than claiming they have the right to come to the U.S.
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Politicians value power first and foremost and an elected office confers them power.
So their main objective is to get reelected and stay in power. End justifies the means including lying (Nunes), looking the other way or pretend it did not happen (most members of GOP congress) or try and deflect like Grassley. And they are betting that their own electorates will have no memory come election time or they me pander on red meat issues, god, guns, gay, abortion, etc. |
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“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?” Trump said, according to these people, referring to countries mentioned by the lawmakers. https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...d94_story.html |
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Folks are going to believe what they want to believe and most folks around here want to believe that Trump made the "shit hole countries" comment.
Me? I actually read the story. Specifically, I read the line that has come to characterize the flimsy nature of reporting these days: "....according to several people briefed on the meeting." So, the article was sourced by people who weren't there. Typical. We then have six Senators in the room. Only Dick Durban has confirmed the "shit hole" comment. The others say that Trump didn't say it, or they didn't hear it. And then you have Dick Durbin who has a history of....ahem....exaggeration. But you guys can believe what you want to believe. |
In case you have not noticed.... Mr. Trump is the master of .....ahem... exaggeration.
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You constantly say that you're not a Trump defender, but you believe Trump, a guy who has lied over 2,000 times in the past year and has a history rife with racism, over Durbin, Graham, Flake and Scott. And lastly, there have been numerous reports that Trump called a number of his friends that night asserting that his comment would play well with his base. A conservative columnist said President Trump called friends to brag after the meeting in which the president reportedly referred to Haiti, El Salvador and African nations as "shithole countries." "It’s weird that people in the room don’t remember Trump using that word when Trump himself was calling friends to brag about it afterwards," Erick Erickson, who has in the past been critical of Trump, said in a tweet. "I spoke to one of those friends. The President thought it would play well with the base." http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...g-about-s-hole https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...stance-n837056 Hell, even the ultimate arbiters of conservative truth, Fox & Friends, agree that Trump made his shithole comments. That should put all arguments to bed.:rolleyes: http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36...-comments-were I guess you believe Lying Donnie Dotard when he says "I am the least racist person you have ever interviewed." |
And now Perdue and Cotton are using a semantic argument, saying that Trump said "shithouse" instead of "shithole," to support their assertion that he didn't make the reported comment.
White House official told me tonight there is debate internally on whether Trump said "shithole" or "shithouse." Perdue and Cotton seem to have heard latter, this person said, and are using to deny. Josh Dawsey WashPost White House Reporter |
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Secondly, Flake and Scott saying that Graham told them of Trump's comments are first-party comments of what Graham said after the meeting. The bottom line - You chose to believe Trump over Durbin, Graham, Scott and Flake. Keep on doing so. It shows the darkness and depravity of your soul. |
Trump had an easily tracked record for dishonesty, unethical business practices, and factual incredibly long before he became a political candidate.
Defending him as anything but what and who he is and always has been is both disingenuous and ridiculous. |
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Your comments above show that you believe what you want to believe, not just about what goes on inside the beltway but also about comments made here. Here's exactly what I said about who I "believe": I have no idea what was said or not said in that meeting, and neither do you. You either are being purposefully dishonest, or you can't read. Frankly, I don't know which and I really don't care. |
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So, right back to my earlier post. Folks are going to believe what they want to believe. Me? I don't believe the media reporting on this, but I don't think we know what was said in that meeting and exclusively taking Durbin's word for it is a non-starter. |
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The bottom line is that your Dear Leader has a long history of racist statements and has long been viewed by most non-sycophantic Americans as a vile, disgusting, racist human being. But, Neo-Nazis and the KKK continue to love and praise him. You're in good company. |
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You go ahead and believe what you want to believe. |
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The claim that America needs more Norwegian immigrants and fewer Africans from “shithole countries” is racist. It is not the same as arguing for a higher-skilled immigrant pool. That argument might go something like: “We need a higher-skilled immigrant pool.”... On this issue, Trump has not earned a single benefit of the doubt. His racial demagoguery in the Central Park Five case . . . his attribution of Kenyan citizenship to Barack Obama . . . his references to Mexican migrants as rapists and murderers . . . his unconstitutional attempt at a Muslim ban . . . his moral equivocation following the deadly protests in Charlottesville . . . his statement, reported by the New York Times, that Nigerians would never “go back to their huts” after seeing America . . . all of these constitute an elaborate pattern of bigotry. Trump makes off-hand racist comments, he promotes racist stereotypes and he incites racism as a political strategy. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...98a_story.html |
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Here's the well-sourced skinny on the "shithole" meeting and the politics surrounding it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...98a_story.html |
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Of course, Dotard can't keep a stable thought in his disease ridden brain for more than a couple of minutes. So then the adults, Durbin and Graham show up to ink the compromise offer and 'Deadbeat' Donnie once again changes his mind and starts mumbling about why we don't have more blonde haired, blue eyed, square headed Norwegians wanting to immigrate to Duh' Merica. Jesus Christ on a pogo stick, I give up. Maybe Presiderp Drumpfenfurher will order an atomic strike on Minnesota next? |
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Watching GOP Sen Jeff Flake confirm to Ms Amanpour that Sen Durbin’s account is exactly what he heard from attendees before it was in the news. Flake is infinitely more credible than Donny.
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Its apparently more important to the folks that want an immigration status quo to attack the administration attempting to modify the status quo than it is to have a debate about merit based immigration (or any changes to the current system for that matter. To me, this is a waste of time and unproductive. Trump's not going anywhere. I suspect you might have figured this out after a year. So, there's a choice to be made. Either spend the next 3 years pursuing something that isn't going to happen, or try to get some things done. There are some opportunities with immigration. There are actual areas of agreement between both parties. For example. I think both parties want a solution to the so called Dreamers issue. No one want to see kids put at risk. But, I don't think its irresponsible to similarly prioritize border security. I think some folks need to grow up. This includes the folks that may have made distasteful comments in the setting of a private discussion, the folks that either leaked the comments to leaked a salacious version of those comments in support of their own agenda, or folks who obsess about those alleged comments in the extreme. |
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With your stubborn desire to deny Trump's obvious racism, I recommend you read this history of his racist statements and actions: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mp-racist.html |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5lcART6TTE None of this is relevant, of course, to the need to address border security or immigration reform, which is the point I'm making but the point you want to ignore. But you keep believing what you want to believe. |
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