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Ike Bana 07-04-2017 10:56 AM

My first political post, reap what you sow, Trumpers
 
Don't Take Away Our Healthcare

Meantime...does anybody think a single one of these poor white disenfranchised, bigot, nativist asshole Trumpers would be whining about anything if it were just the swarthy muslims and mexicans who were losing their health insurance and their medicaid?

The fuck they would...so boo fucking hoo.

finnbow 07-04-2017 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ike Bana (Post 356567)
Don't Take Away Our Healthcare

Meantime...does anybody think a single one of these poor white disenfranchised, bigot, nativist asshole Trumpers would be whining about anything if it were just the swarthy muslims and mexicans who were losing their health insurance and their medicaid?

The fuck they would...so boo fucking hoo.

No, they'd be applauding it. In their eyes, only "real Americans" (white, poorly-educated, rural Americans) deserve anything from government. Those with dark complexions are freeloaders.

MrPots 07-04-2017 12:36 PM

The best thing that could happen to this country is for the republicans to succeed with their hateful and selfish plans to gut social services. Killing Obamacare, planned parenthood and Medicaid will result in a trifecta collapse of our healthcare system. Tens of millions of people will go back to emergency room care as a first resort. And guess whose insurance premiums will skyrocket to make up for all those unpaid emergency room visits? Your's and mine. The cost of health care for millions more in the middle class will skyrocket. Middle class america is on a precipice with regard to healthcare premiums, we are just barely able to pay the premiums; another 25% increase and millions of middle class americans will have to abandon the insurance market.

Americas health care system will collapse, and it'll be on the heads of the republicans.

CarlV 07-04-2017 02:49 PM

I am hoping for repeal without replace. Those goons in the capital will never agree on a replacement and maybe then it will be game over O'Connell and all the damage he has done.

Dondilion 07-04-2017 03:36 PM

It is a conundrum--the health care that the American thinks he is entitled to is too expensive to be delivered.

Here health care professionals are reasonably paid, the equipment is very modern and treatment of patients to prevent lawsuit is required to be super cautious and almost immediate to prevent lawsuits.

Compare to Britain.
Salary of professionals, modernity of equipment, early and comprehensive care, cost and frequency of litigation.

barbara 07-04-2017 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 356602)
It is a conundrum--the health care that the American thinks he is entitled to is too expensive to be delivered.



Here health care professionals are reasonably paid, the equipment is very modern and treatment of patients to prevent lawsuit is required to be super cautious and almost immediate to prevent lawsuits.



Compare to Britain.

Salary of professionals, modernity of equipment, early and comprehensive care, cost and frequency of litigation.



The health care that Americans are entitled to is not too expensive.

Other countries have health care with less cost and better outcomes.

We could too if we didn't have politicians who are beholden to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies.

CarlV 07-04-2017 04:01 PM

Yes, let's give Congress what they give the people for medical and retirement. Boy would things change in an instant.

Dondilion 07-04-2017 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 356605)
The health care that Americans are entitled to is not too expensive.

Other countries have health care with less cost and better outcomes.

We could too if we didn't have politicians who are beholden to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies.

For starters: Compare the salaries/material rewards of the professionals of the other countries.

barbara 07-04-2017 04:24 PM

My first political post, reap what you sow, Trumpers
 
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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 356609)
For starters: Compare the salaries/material rewards of the professionals of the other countries.



For staters, compare the cost and outcomes of healthcare to other countries.

Rajoo 07-04-2017 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by barbara (Post 356605)
The health care that Americans are entitled to is not too expensive.

Other countries have health care with less cost and better outcomes.

We could too if we didn't have politicians who are beholden to pharmaceutical companies and insurance companies.

That word is the enemy of the conservatives.
Are we entitled to clean air? No.
Are we entitled to clean water? No.
Are we entitled to healthcare? No.
And Social Security is already raided to the hilt, so nothing there either in the future.


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