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Boreas 02-17-2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 302295)
There are peaceful and non violent ways available to protesters which can be used to galvanize public opinion.

However the Democratic leadership is aloof to the serious issues affecting its union class especially the class associated with manufacturing.

With NAFTA and now TPP, the leadership is saying why get involve with job retaining issues.

My beef is with your proposed response.

Dondilion 02-17-2016 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 302304)
My beef is with your proposed response.

Well let me expand.

Peaceful demonstration, peaceful sit in. An elected representative gets arrested. :D

Boreas 02-17-2016 01:25 PM

That's our job, not the politicians'.

bobabode 02-17-2016 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 302274)
But the Democratic Party which is supposed to be the "Union Party" is a pussy.

It has no street credibility. Not even a demonstration...some civil disobedience...waving of flag and occupation of an office or two.

Channeling the 'Donald'?

donquixote99 02-17-2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 302308)
That's our job, not the politicians'.

Civil disobedience not respectable?

Dondilion 02-17-2016 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 302309)
Channeling the 'Donald'?

.

Did not even remember that he used it. Just a fitting description.

BTW the Dems, by appearing to be less than vigorous, are surrendering such worker issues to a demagogue like Trump.

Boreas 02-17-2016 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 302311)
Civil disobedience not respectable?

Of course it's respectable, or at least it can be. That isn't the point. Our job is to call attention to injustice and demand remedies. As our elected representatives, the politicians' responsibility is to heed our demands and create the necessary legislation.

Dindillion's post, the one I took exception to, would have politicians and party officials directly agitating and urging riotous behavior and the illegal occupation of public property. That would be equivalent to, for instance, the RNC urging the Bundys to occupy Malheur.

Dondilion 02-17-2016 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 302318)
Of course it's respectable, or at least it can be. That isn't the point. Our job is to call attention to injustice and demand remedies. As our elected representatives, the politicians' responsibility is to heed our demands and create the necessary legislation.

Dindillion's post, the one I took exception to, would have politicians and party officials directly agitating and urging riotous behavior and the illegal occupation of public property. That would be equivalent to, for instance, the RNC urging the Bundys to occupy Malheur.

My expansion did not imply riotous behavior...the word peaceful is everywhere.
Illegal sit in, yes! But PEACEFUL.

Boreas 02-17-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 302321)
My expansion did not imply riotous behavior...the word peaceful is everywhere.
Illegal sit in, yes! But PEACEFUL.

No, not "everywhere". For instance, not in the post I originally cited.

The Malheur occupation was "peaceful".

Dondilion 02-17-2016 03:37 PM

Nothing riotous about this. Here elected officials break the law PEACEFULLY.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/nyc-coun...est-1433365026


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