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finnbow 02-20-2014 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 195196)
German Secretary of State Steinmeier wanted to act as mediator in the conflict, together with two collegues from Poland and France. They arrived at Kiev today and left Kiev instantly again, without meeting anybody.

:eek:

Yep. The truce announced yesterday broke down and now there are bullets flying.

HarmanKardon 02-20-2014 07:13 AM

I am actually a bit confused now. I got the the informations from CNN and German CNN offshoot NTV three hours ago that the negotiations did not happen. But latest internet infos say they did.

Anyway - EU pressure will be in vain, I am convinced of that, because Janukovych is a puppet of Putin.

Dondilion 02-20-2014 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 195206)
I am actually a bit confused now. I got the the informations from CNN and German CNN offshoot NTV three hours ago that the negotiations did not happen. But latest internet infos say they did.

Anyway - EU pressure will be in vain, I am convinced of that, because Janukovych is a puppet of Putin.

Or because the EU is not prepared to pay the asking price.

HarmanKardon 02-20-2014 12:21 PM

The Western border of the Ukraine is just 500 miles away from Berlin. High professional snipers kill opposites just to statisfy their need for killing, according to a doctor working in a Kiev hotel which is transformed into a "hospital" since today.

Medvedev demands for more efficient actions by Yanukovych - I do not know what THAT means. Perhaps a consequence will be civil war?

MrPots 02-20-2014 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon (Post 195263)
The Western border of the Ukraine is just 500 miles away from Berlin. High professional snipers kill opposites just to statisfy their need for killing, according to a doctor working in a Kiev hotel which is transformed into a "hospital" since today.

Medvedev demands for more efficient actions by Yanukovych - I do not know what THAT means. Perhaps a consequence will be civil war?


Perhaps chemical weapons.....

bobabode 02-20-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 195198)
Yep. The truce announced yesterday broke down and now there are bullets flying.

Yep. It's pretty bad. Snipers on both sides and police using automatic weapons.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...y.html?hpid=z1

Rajoo 02-21-2014 09:24 AM

Ukraine President, Opposition Sign Compromise Deal

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...741947218.html

Hope this sticks, cooler heads prevail. Yanukovych has lost the country anyway to the pro west supporters. Love to see Putin lose. Syria next? Hope so.

Dondilion 02-21-2014 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 195400)
Ukraine President, Opposition Sign Compromise Deal

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/...741947218.html

Hope this sticks, cooler heads prevail. Yanukovych has lost the country anyway to the pro west supporters. Love to see Putin lose. Syria next? Hope so.

Or to the Right Sector?

HarmanKardon 02-22-2014 06:25 AM

In post #14 I supposed a civil war and now I fear a civil war and a (presumably) resulting separation of the nation into a pro West and a pro Russia part. This scenario gets more and more realistic, although the opposition became stronger and the time of Yanukovych has been running out.

It is like a crime thirller, but this is a crime thriller with a lot of real blood.

merrylander 02-22-2014 03:58 PM

Suddenly this all made me think of an old cigarette advert, Virginia Slime I think. It said "You've come a longh way baby." Oh really, have we? If I had not seen the sun rise in the east this morning I would swear that someone had reversed the earth's rotation and we were going backward in time.


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