Retire and die
 

Are you sure you want to take early retirement?

http://oregonstate.edu/ua/ncs/archiv...research-shows

How come those CEO' who sit on their ass all day but can afford healthcare like most people in the rest of the developed world live so long? Retiring and sitting on your ass all day will put you under real quick.
There's a reason the stats of the USA look like a 3rd world country to the World Health Organization.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...mortality_rate

2012 we were 37, 2015 we are 38.


Carl

Golf.:D

You're right, the affluent live longer. Better cardiac care, better diet, and less exposure to carcinogens, would be the big three probably. Also, better doctors.

Access to good health care is a major factor.

I'm going to keep working and making my bosses rich. I'll also be helping provide for the less fortunate with my tax dollars while the union slugs take their early retirements and no longer contribute. I guess they figure they got theirs and screw everyone else.

Besides, I still love what I do, might as well get paid to do it.

I've been retired for 4.5 years and I love every minute of it.

Gramps lived to 96 and mom is still camping at 89, so I guess I've got some years left. Besides, there are still some rightwing nutjobs left that I haven't pissed off. ;)

I've been retired for over 8 years and I love every minute of it too.

Work Sucks a Big Donkey Dick.

What is it with Republicans trash-talking retired people? You want to work forever, wearing out your knee pads under the board room table? Fine. Whatever trips your trigger........

I don't, I hope to be done with it at 60 and I don't give a rats ass if you don't like that, you obnoxious "holier than thou" right wing assholes. "Look at me, I worked until I was in my eighties!" Well, good for you. I intend to have been goofing off, doing whatever the hell I feel like doing for at least 20 years by then. To each his own. You do your thing, I do mine.

Now fuck off.

By the way; Earlier this month I attended the 100th birthday of an Uncle who retired in the 1970s. Note that he IS NOT DEAD. My father retired t 68 and lived to be 92.

So, stick your study where the sun don't shine, Was. It's vapid and pointless.

Wow Dave, you're spunky tonight.
Couple things-
1. I don't do boardrooms. They don't even invite me to meetings any more. Don't like what I have to say. I earn my living supporting and providing technical guidance to union guys, and they know I got their backs too.
2. It's not my study. It was done by one of them enlightened schools of higher edumacation, in Oregon no less.
3. Sounds like your uncle, and many more people, could have contributed a lot more to society had they sought out a profession they were passionate about.

Contribute to society my ass. Who gets all marginal increases in wealth nowadays? It ain't 'society.'

Who gets richer if attitudes against retired folks can be inflamed, so they can be shamed and starved into staying in harness?

The more money the more access to a better diet and health care......

When one reaches this decision, ask yourself this question. What the remaining years are worth? They can not be known or given back. There is a lot more one can enjoy and do at 62 then 70. What good will more money do you if you are in a assisted living home at 71 wishing you had taken retirement earlier?



Barney

It's propaganda.

It's designed to sell you on their Master Plan to gut medicare and social security.

Two of my best buddies where I worked both had more time in than me.

And they were always talking about how as soon as they got their 30 years in they would retire.

Well their 30 year anniversaries rolled around and they both decided to stay just a little bit longer to fatten up their pensions.

So when my time came I bailed and they were still working.

Well guess what?

They're both dead.

One crapped out on the job.

The other got to collect that bigger pension for about 5 months.

I have spent a good part of my career representing workers in the construction industry. They fight hard to keep the ability to retire for people who have put 30 years in the trade. Much of their work simply wears out a body. The work that they do is essential to progress, so by the time they retire, they have earned it.

My work doesn't take the same physical toll, and I enjoy it. I will likely keep my hand in it in some way until I kick the bucket.

Regards,

D-Ray

I think it is silly to worry about a 11 percent more chance of dying once you reach 65.

Oh, you're just jealous of their wealth!:rolleyes:

^^^Truth spoken.^^^

You got that right.

My primary care physician is trying to scare me into taking blood pressure and cholesterol reducing medications. His medical group has a computer program that calculates a bunch of alarming risks (based on my data) which are displayed on a screen.

My Dad had to start working at 14, it was the Great Depression and he was left with no choice, (His father was an alcoholic, incapable of holding a job.). He didn't retire until he was 68. In fact, he too didn't want to retire even then because he had the same ideas in his head that so many people seem to be adopting today; That ANYONE who stops working for any reason is a "bum", etc., etc.....

After he retired, all of that changed. He saw the light. At 68, he was finally free of the yoke.

I am tired of people who don't see that what's going on here is that union pensions, Social Security, Medicare......All of these things made it possible for people like my Dad and his generation to stop working at an age where they were still young and healthy enough to enjoy the free time before they pass. They have convinced a sizeable portion of our current workforce that this is somehow shameful, that it's "welfare" and so on. It has no other purpose than to create an environment wherein work can only be escaped by death or dependency upon relatives, not even after one grows too old to continue.

The Republican Party despises Democracy, despises collective action, hates it when workers look out for each other, despises dissent against their ideology, (Under the notion that their way is the "American Way".) Anyone who complains, strikes or protests is a "pussy" or a "whiner"..............

Can it get any more obvious what that's all about?

I finally caved to that pressure, due to a couple scary episodes. I now take cholesterol medication...... The thing is that there was no mention of diabetes in my check-ups until AFTER I started taking the Statin. A Google search revealed that elevated blood sugar is a known side effect of statin use, although my PCP still insists the two are not connected. Now he wants me to start taking Metformin.............

Ugh........ I don't know about all of this.

I recommend an automated BP device, used according to directions, and take at least three readings per session.

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Do it before your diabetes gets worse. I am on insulin and Metformin.

Listen to your doctor not the internet.

You don't want to lose a leg or have a stroke because diabetes will sneak up on you without you knowing about it.

They wanted to milk that state government retirement because by that point when they showed up for work they weren't really doing anything anyway right? Wow Tom you are just made in the shade with state retirement you got!

My little sister is an employment attorney for Osborne/Maledon in Phoenix. I was just informed this morning that she is going after a judge position in Maricopa county. I envision that as a career with some longevity. Many Judges work to a fairly old age.

Myself, not so much. My dad died at 66. My stepfather died at 53. My wifes dad died when he was in his 50's. My grandpa Hugh was the first Holland male to reach 80, and died at 81. My maternal grandparents both lived into their 90's. My son died at 34. I have no idea when my time will be up, but if I live long enough I will retire at my first opportunity. I already do a lot of things that I once was going to put off until retirement just because after the kid died, that really put mortality in perspective. Another big reason I moved to central Oregon this year. I don't care for statistics and averages much I am fairly healthy. My labs all come back excellent, with the exception of a bit high liver readings which I attribute to a wild youth and a lot of NSAID use since I have pretty much worn my body out a bit prematurely as I have always worked pretty physical jobs.

You would know, being on that Retired Military/GS Gravy Train.

I searched for info AFTER the doctor told me my blood sugar had become too high, AFTER I had been taking the statin for about a year.

No diabetes - statins - diabetes.

I simply searched "Statins side effects" and got many hits from various sources, including the pharma manufacturers themselves, yielding very similar results.

Statins drive up your sugar levels, regardless of what the doctor tells you.

I've also discovered, through experimentation, that reasonable exercise and proper diet do WAY more to correct these problems than the drugs do. Unfortunately, I'm a lazy man and I'm not very good at maintaining a consistent exercise regimen.......:rolleyes:

That's the trouble with drugs that are supposed to cure.... Sometimes the side effects are not worth it.

The cancer drug I'm on causes blood clots in the legs which I now have. I talked to the doc about stopping the cancer drug because the blood clots can be deadly. He told me the cancer can be deadly too.

I can't wait to retire and if it weren't for the fact that I'm not old enough for Medicare ....I would retire today.

Yeah on same track as your state retirement train!

Don't fuck around with diabetes Dave.

I take the medicine and still don't do what I'm supposed too, but trust me it is a killer.

Barbara they had Florence on Lovenox (inject-able blood thinner) to avoid blood clots - bloody expensive though.

Me doc says I am a survivor, Mum and older sister both made 90, maternal grandparents made it into their 90s, so I am probably stuck here for another five years but I would rather be with Florence.