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Pio1980 03-04-2017 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 349668)
LBJ got Medicare and Civil rights passes.

That was the end of any meaningful progressive legislation.

Not by me it was. The demise of DOMA and marriage equality under the previous POTUS were landmark Progressive civil rights advances.

bobabode 03-04-2017 01:47 PM

I'd venture to say that the executive order creating the EPA signed by Dick Nixon was progressive. Sadly under Orange Julius and Pruitt this agency is under attack. :(

merrylander 03-04-2017 02:05 PM

The whole country is under attack by Bannon and Co.

Tom Joad 03-04-2017 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 349669)
Bannon is pulling the strings.

You honestly think Trump would let anyone pull his strings?

LMAO.:D

Tom Joad 03-04-2017 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 349656)
Progressive change in America is only brought about through institutions when the middle class is threatened. Now the people who voted for Trump may have fallen out of the middle class or feel like they might soon. But Trump is not the one who will bring about the change they want. Only an establishment can.

No real change ever comes from the establishment.

As for the middle class, they are the ruling classes insurance policy against them being put to the Guillotine. The ruling class knows that most people will accept the status quo if they are allowed a few crumbs from their table.

Take yourself. You would never revolt against the status quo as long as you have your navy pension, tricare, and a cushy government job. You've been paid off. That's why you are a supporter of the same shit, different day corporate Democrats.

Take those away and you would become a so************************t overnight.

icenine 03-04-2017 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 349685)
No real change ever comes from the establishment.

As for the middle class, they are the ruling classes insurance policy against them being put to the Guillotine. The ruling class knows that most people will accept the status quo if they are allowed a few crumbs from their table.

Take yourself. You would never revolt against the status quo as long as you have your navy pension, tricare, and a cushy government job. You've been paid off. That's why you are a supporter of the same shit, different day corporate Democrats.

Take those away and you would become a so************************t overnight.

Right TJ. You are a real rebel sucking on LBJ's Medicare, FDR's Social Security and Obama's ACA, and whatever glitch you are suffering from probably a result of choices you made. Oh yeah and your Florida state retirement.

If you read between the lines of your posts you are just pissed off that you have to pay for some parts of your care. A real progressive would shut up and pay their bill and be happy that others who can't got the Medicaid expansion.

Like I said call your Congressman if the family glitch is hurting you or get a part time job for the money you need.

Yeah I do have it easier. Perhaps I made better choices than you.

Tom Joad 03-04-2017 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 349688)
Yeah I do have it easier. Perhaps I made better choices than you.

I don't know Dude.

I have it pretty easy these days. :D

I do have a few regrets though.

They mostly involve chicks. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWLG7OQCuFo

nailer 03-04-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 349685)
No real change ever comes from the establishment.

Too true and the civil rights movement comes immediately to mind. It was citizens leading the way and doing most of the work.

The army was one of the first establishment organizations to support, albeit subtly, the cause.

donquixote99 03-04-2017 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 349684)
You honestly think Trump would let anyone pull his strings?

LMAO.:D

You honestly think a person of Trump's temperament isn't Easy Meat for a manipulative confidant who knows how to stroke his ever-needy ego?

Tom Joad 03-04-2017 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by icenine (Post 349688)
Right TJ. You are a real rebel sucking on LBJ's Medicare, FDR's Social Security and Obama's ACA, and whatever glitch you are suffering from probably a result of choices you made. Oh yeah and your Florida state retirement.

I readily admit with pride that I am on the government gravy train.

You on the other hand get all feisty and defensive when I point out the fact that you are on it too.

What's the prob Ice?

You feel guilty?:)


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