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icenine 02-14-2018 08:42 AM

Trump Takes Up The Fight For The Common Man Again! I think...
 
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Oerets 02-14-2018 08:55 AM

Not a fan of tip to server at all. This goes to only increasing my displeasure with subsidizing a business owner. Allowing them to pay less out of their pocket and shaming the patron into making up the difference.

I feel for and do tip generously to the server. If this does happen then I may stop completely and make it known as to why at the establishment.



Barney

barbara 02-14-2018 08:57 AM

Years ago, I waitressed at a private country club where tips were handled in this way. Also, tipping was a requirement of the members and included in the bill.

Some servers received tips and some never received tips and I suspected the boss put a fair amount in her pocket.

At the time, the elder Mrs. Kaiser was a member and she always requested me for her private dinner parties. She would pay the required tip on the bill then slip me a real tip when the boss was not looking. This is how I received my tips.

Oerets 02-14-2018 09:07 AM

Having a Brother who owned two restaurants and Sisters who have worked as servers. Many an argument we have encountered over the Tip. Bottom line for me has always been pay the employee a fair wage. The argument on good service is a weak one for me, let go the worker who fails in performance. Also the one about price of meal is also weak. For the tip is also included just hidden.


Barney

icenine 02-14-2018 09:23 AM

I guess I should have the term Worker instead of man in my thread title. My apologies for excluding hard working women.

finnbow 02-14-2018 09:35 AM

The United States should do exactly what just about every other modern country does, pay the server out of restaurant funds and not tips (i.e., have the stated price include service and tax). Tips, to the extent they exist at all, should consist of rounding up to the nearest dollar to facilitate the making of change. Same goes for sales tax, BTW. In the rest of the world, a $10 menu item ends up costing $10, not $10 plus 15-20% for a tip and 5-10% for sales or dining tax.

Dondilion 02-14-2018 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oerets (Post 367722)
Bottom line for me has always been pay the employee a fair wage.


Barney

That is it, plus a no tipping policy.

Rajoo 02-14-2018 09:59 AM

There are a couple of Indian restaurants which I frequent and they automatically add a "service charge" for parties of six or more, but when they present the tab on an iPad type tablet, it features buttons for no tip, 15, 20 & 25%'s. They don't bother to mention that the tip has already been included. One needs to read the fine print on the menu.

Next time should ask for individual tabs just to trip them up since this is just greed on their part.

nailer 02-14-2018 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 367724)
The United States should do exactly what just about every other modern country does, pay the server out of restaurant funds and not tips (i.e., have the stated price include service and tax). Tips, to the extent they exist at all, should consist of rounding up to the nearest dollar to facilitate the making of change. Same goes for sales tax, BTW. In the rest of the world, a $10 menu item ends up costing $10, not $10 plus 15-20% for a tip and 5-10% for sales or dining tax.

States' rights! ;)

BlueStreak 02-15-2018 12:17 AM

I remember when my Sister waited tables at a restaurant back in the '70s. Her boss instructed the staff to turn ALL of their tips in to him and then he would get to decide who deserved what. He was an asshole who would always take the lions share for himself. She told me once that if a customer left two dollars on the table she would be lucky to get one of them back.........

Surprise, surprise.

His story ended like this;

He was also a pervert. And a few years after my Sis quit and joined the Navy, the husband of one of the other waitresses walked into the restaurant and shot him in the chest.

Sooner or later, scumbags get their comeuppance.


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