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BlueStreak 02-28-2013 11:08 AM

2nd Amendment in 1930s Germany?
 
Here's a question for ya;

Who thinks 2nd Amendment firearm ownership rights would have stopped the Nazi march to power in 1930s Germany? You know, they way anti-gun control zealots seem to claim it would have.

I think it's a ridiculous notion. But, I'll let you guys go first.

Dave

piece-itpete 02-28-2013 12:10 PM

I don't think so, simply because so many power centers in Germany supported him during his rise to power.

They thought he'd be a puppet. Dupes all.

Pete

finnbow 02-28-2013 12:11 PM

Heck, our 2nd Amendment didn't stop Obama from coming to power and the wingnuts insist he's as bad as Hitler.

merrylander 02-28-2013 12:15 PM

Paper tiger.

ebacon 02-28-2013 01:31 PM

The second amendment would not have done anything. Germans were unemployed and Hitler had a job creation program, namely war.

Sounds familiar.

piece-itpete 02-28-2013 01:34 PM

Afghanistan? WW2? Vietnam? Korea? Tell us!!

;)

Pete

ebacon 02-28-2013 01:34 PM

And remember that not every German agreed with Hitler or the war. My German grandfather served and hated it. He was an opera singer at heart, not a submariner. My German grandmother said that villagers hated it when the German soldiers came into town because they raided the farms for food.

The front line of war sucks, but the view from the assembly line ain't bad.

ebacon 02-28-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 149163)
Afghanistan? WW2? Vietnam? Korea? Tell us!!

;)

Pete

There are supporters on this board telling me. They say if we cut the military budget then people will lose their jobs.

It's that subtle. It's typical politics from our perspective. It's not like we are shooting each other over the war on terror, or the war on drugs, or the war on whatever that serve as an excuse for someone's job.

icenine 02-28-2013 01:48 PM

Tea Party on the right.
Moral equivalency on the left or middle.

I do not agree with Pete on many things but the longer I am here the more I know he has read up on things and generally knows what he is talking about.

BlueStreak 02-28-2013 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 149159)
Heck, our 2nd Amendment didn't stop Obama from coming to power and the wingnuts insist he's as bad as Hitler.

Which still leaves me flabbergasted. I can't envision Hitler supporting gay marriage or cutting the military budget and I'm pretty sure his stance on Civil Rights would be something other than liberal, to say the least.........:confused:

Pete accused me of playing the "Nazi card" a little while ago. I had spent a couple hours the previous day reading posts and doing battle on a wingnut site (www.breakingobama.com) arguing about the Holocaust. It seems that Obama the Nazi is trying to take our guns so's he can stuff us into the cattle cars and exterminate us in FEMA camps......:rolleyes:

At one point a self described Tea Party member bemoaned, "...the class of people joining the (TP) movement."

I predict self destruction.

Anyhow, I don't believe that, at any point, would nearly unrestricted private gun ownership, a la the USA, have prevented the rise of the Third Reich. If anything, it may have exacerbated the problem as Germanys wingnuts would have caught onto the patriotic fervor and flagwaiving horseshit and become a part of the problem. (As they apparently did?);)

Regards,
Dave


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