Ford CEO: U.S. plant expansion is 'vote of confidence' in Trump
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/03/news...ump/index.html
Ford is canceling plans to build a new plant in Mexico. It will invest $700 million in Michigan instead, creating 700 new U.S. jobs. ...but Finn doesn't think any of this is "sustainable". :rolleyes: |
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Smoke and mirrors.
http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/op...ml?ref=opinion Big industry recognizes full well that the way to Trump's heart is (insincere) flattery. Give him credit for what you're planning to do anyway and he'll sing your praises (until you do something he doesn't like and he'll compare you to the devil). Details of the Carrier deal still haven't been released and the SoftBank deal was culminated a month before the election. BTW, Ford still intends to expand its manufacturing in Mexico, announcing at the same time that the next-generation Ford Focus will be built at an existing facility there to save on costs. The only thing sustainable here is Trump taking credit for stuff he has nothing to do with and your willingness to buy into his attention-grabbing BS. |
Finn's flailing continues.
Item One: In an effort to counter a post about news from today, Finn posts an OPINION piece from yesterday. Item Two: Finn says "The only thing sustainable here is Trump taking credit for stuff he has nothing to do with." Of course, Trump took no credit for Ford's decision to change its Mexico plans. No evidence that Finn read the CNN-Money article I posted, but if he did, he might have seen the following: Ford (F) CEO Mark Fields said the investment is a "vote of confidence" in the pro-business environment being created by Donald Trump. However, he stressed Ford did not do any sort of special deal with the president-elect. "We didn't cut a deal with Trump. We did it for our business," Fields told CNN's Poppy Harlow in an exclusive interview Tuesday. In other words, Trump was not involved directly or indirectly in the decision - making process. Ford's CEO, however, did cite the anticipation of a better business climate under Trump as part of their decision-making process. So, Finn, this was not like Carrier in any way, so you'll need to explain why you chose to reference it in this thread. Item 3: Once again, for a non-Democrat, Finn fearlessly recycles Dem talking points, even when they don't apply. :rolleyes: |
Flattery and advertising on Ford's part. They are catching on.
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I guess I'm just a bit more skeptical than you or Joad when it comes to reveling in the Wonders of Trump. Given his proclivity to lie and take credit for anything positive, a healthy dose of skepticism is warranted. Your attempts to convince the rest of us take Trump's self-serving claims at face value (like you obviously have) is highly entertaining though. |
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I'm gonna enjoy watching your meltdown.:) |
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http://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/03/bu...rump.html?_r=0 But the moves raise questions about how competitive the country’s auto industry can be if its manufacturing options shrink in Mexico, and what the implications will be for consumers. For now, at least, some executives are praising Mr. Trump’s economic plans. “We are encouraged by the pro-growth plans that President-elect Trump and the new Congress indicate they will pursue,” Mark Fields, Ford’s chief executive, said at an event on Tuesday. That same article cites a recognition of the fact that Trump has a sensitivity to off shoring jobs. Quote:
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OK, that's some pretty funny shit there, Mike. :D |
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[QUOTE=finnbow;343303]Except you, Tom Joad, and ZeroJunk - the 3 Musketeers of Trump sycophancy. In fact, you all look so very cute in your cheerleader outfits.
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If someone had told me a few months ago that the Democrats would one day be acting more batshit crazy than the T-Party I would have laughed at them. But here we are. Congratulations Idiots. You've broken the Baggers bat shit crazy record by a country mile, and Trump hasn't even taken office. It looks like the sky is the limit for you Dudes! |
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These (mutually independent) decisions were made 3 weeks before Trump becomes President and months to years before any meaningful tax changes or import tariffs (illegal under NAFTA, BTW) could be passed and implemented (if passed at all). The contents and likelihood of passage of any such changes is unknown, as are their impacts upon Ford. Yet, Ford chooses to flatter Trump by saying that his policies had something to do with their decision (just as the SoftBank CEO did earlier), knowing that they could thereby curry Trump's favor (without doing anything they didn't plan to do anyway). Trump tweets about his responsibility for Ford's decision and you buy it, hook, line and sinker. How's that for substance? |
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Your focus in the flattery angle is fine if you want to engage in the lightweight end of the debate. But I think Mark Fields pretty publicly dispensed with that when he specifically said that Trump was not involved in the decision-making process. You'd have to be a freaking village idiot (or an avowed lefty) to look at the history of this and exclude Trump as an influence. Whether, as Mark Fields indicated, its a belief in the development of a more business - friendly climate, or specifically targeting Ford with his comments following the Ford's announcement to build the Mexico plant, there was certainly some influence. "Substance" would be a discussion about the merits or risks of this type of influence. Also, I think you've got the details regarding the production of the Ford Focus wrong. Demand for the Focus - which was HUGE when the vehicle was first introduced - has been tapering off for a while now, but its still selling pretty well. The Focus remains and important vehicle for Ford because it can be sold world wide, and because its a good "entry level" vehicle domestically. Ford had previously announced its intentions to move ALL of its small car production - which includes the Focus - to Mexico. That's what the new plant in Mexico was for. Monday's announcement will keep the production of Ford Focus vehicles bound for the US market in Flat Rock, MI where they are currently being produced. The current Mexican plant will continue to product Ford Focus vehicles intended for the export market, and the workforce there will to support production for the export market. |
Once again a move is made that has little to do with Trump, beyond a top executive commenting that his company has "confidence" in the president-elect and policies that have as yet to become law, and out come the brass bands and fireworks to celebrate the new king and his glorious reign.
This is easily the best entertainment I've had since gleeful Republicans informed me that Reagan had "ended Communism". I love you guys, you truly are a hoot. |
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Ford Motor Co. already got the message. As part of a sweeping announcement detailing the company’s vision for next-generation mobility, the Blue Oval said it is canceling plans to build a new assembly plant in Mexico. Trump openly criticized the plan throughout his campaign, even as senior Ford officials publicly defended the decision as recently as last month. Instead, as part of a $4.5 billion investment in electrification and self-driving vehicles, Ford will invest $700 million in its Flat Rock Assembly Plant, create 700 jobs, establish a Manufacturing Innovation Center and produce electrified versions of its iconic F-150 pickup and Mustang sports car in Michigan. The decisions are a political win for Trump and Vice President-elect Mike Pence, who were briefed separately by phone on Ford’s plans earlier Tuesday by Executive Chairman Bill Ford Jr. and CEO Mark Fields. Trump’s Build America rhetoric on the campaign trail powered his victory in the industrial Midwest, put American businesses like Ford and GM, Boeing Co. and Lockheed Martin Corp. on notice and could redraw the heartland electoral map to favor Republicans. In other words, yes, Trump did have an impact. Yes, it is a "win" for Michigan in particular. On the other hand, Trump's strategy is not without risks, but companies like Ford are reacting to it, so far in favorable ways. But other folks, including editors at the Det News, are noticing. Glad you're entertained by all this, Dave. |
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Google it. |
Well, some Mexicans certainly think Trump has had something to do with all this:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...01-04-14-45-38 Two weeks before inauguration, the scuttling of the planned Ford factory and Trump's pressure on General Motors should be a "much-needed wake-up call," said Mexico analyst Alejandro Hope. It shows "how much actual leverage Trump has within specific companies, which is far greater than what Mexican elites thought until recently," Hope said. "They claimed that at the end of the day economic interests would prevail over political messaging. That's clearly not the case." In an editorial, El Universal also recalled the deal Trump struck in December with Carrier to keep 800 of 1,300 jobs at an Indiana furnace factory from being sent to Mexico, in return for millions of dollars in tax incentives. It also implicitly criticized the Mexican government's response to the incoming administration. "Mexico loses thousands of jobs with no word on a clear strategy for confronting the next U.S. government which has presented itself as protectionist and, especially, anti-Mexican," the paper wrote. "Trump will try to recover as many U.S. companies that have set up in Mexico as possible. He will try to make them return at whatever cost, through threats or using public resources." |
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700 jobs is 700 jobs. That will not have much affect on the entire country. It is nice that MI Goppers will have more workers to exploit and feed leaded water to I reckon. :rolleyes:
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It amuses me how conservatives cheer Trump as he runs around like some third world soci@list autocrat claiming that job creation or preservation is a result of his actions. Should we saddle him with the 10K job losses Macy's just announced?
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Let that be a lesson for anyone out there considering going against him. http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politi...d-trump-macys/ |
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Probably Macy should just swallow its pride and restock with Trump's merchandise. :D |
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Trump: Now Ford can build Focus in U.S.; Ford: That makes no sense
Hey, Trumpkins! Donny's a moron. Ford says so. Where the heck are the vocal Trumpkins? Finally came to their senses? https://www.freep.com/story/money/ca...us/1250457002/ Quote:
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JFC!!!
Has this crap show really been running two years? Donny, fucking die already. |
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BREAKING: GM is slashing 14,700 factory and white collar jobs in North America; may close five factories. 7:34 AM · Nov 26, 2018 · SocialFlow ----------------------------- MAGA! :rolleyes: |
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