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BlueStreak 08-07-2010 10:31 PM

Solidarnosc, anyone?
 
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This is going back a ways, but does anyone here remember Lech Walesa's SOLIDARNOSC movement that brought the Communist government in Poland to it's knees? Did you know that organizers from the UAW and USW were sent to Poland to help in this effort?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech_Wa%C5%82%C4%99sa

I wonder if Glenn Beck will ever do a segment on this story of how labor unions helped to bring down Communism in Eastern Europe?

Or, would that kinda contradict his twisted message?:rolleyes:

Dave

Boreas 08-07-2010 10:47 PM

Yes, I remember that well, the way Walesa and his union brothers took over the Gdansk shipyards and dared the communists to do something about it. All heroes in my book.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl...land/img/1.jpg

John

merrylander 08-08-2010 08:27 AM

Remember it well but of course beck et. al. would never admit to UAW and USW's part in it. He is not the historian sista sarah calls him, just a modern day revisionist.

noonereal 08-08-2010 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 36022)
Remember it well but of course beck et. al. would never admit to UAW and USW's part in it. He is not the historian sista sarah calls him, just a modern day revisionist.

Yes and as a modern revisionist he would spin it to say that the unions "set up" a young democracy for labor troubles.

finnbow 08-08-2010 08:49 AM

I was living in Germany at the time and remember it very well. It was front and center in the news for a long time. As for Beck or Limbaugh publicly recognizing the unions' contribution to this, I think we'll first see pigs flying.

Boreas 08-08-2010 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 36026)
As for Beck or Limbaugh publicly recognizing the unions' contribution to this, I think we'll first see pigs flying.

http://dummidumbwit.files.wordpress....ls-frontal.jpg

John

BlueStreak 08-08-2010 09:27 PM

Another excellent article on this subject.

http://www.gdansk-life.com/poland/solidarity

Take the time to read the comments, if you can.

Dave

piece-itpete 08-09-2010 10:17 AM

I was living in a heavily Polish neighborhood at the time :) Very exciting.

Exciting. I wonder if the far lefties in media will recognise the Churches contribution? ;)

Pete

Boreas 08-09-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 36066)
Exciting. I wonder if the far lefties in media will recognise the Churches contribution? ;)

This Leftie thinks it was terrific. There are a lot of us Lefties in the church, by the way, even on social issues.

Of course, in this particular instance, the motivations were far from spiritual. We had a Polish pope who saw an opportunity to weaken the atheistic government of his native country and restore the Vatican's power there. It was as much a turf battle as anything else.

John

BlueStreak 08-09-2010 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 36066)
I was living in a heavily Polish neighborhood at the time :) Very exciting.

Exciting. I wonder if the far lefties in media will recognise the Churches contribution? ;)

Pete

In the media? I don't know. But, this not quite so far to the lefty says; Absolutely, the church deserves some credit. I was and still am awestruck by how "the church" managed to survive and overcome terrible repression even in the very heart of the Communist empire, the USSR, for all of those years.:)

Dave


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