Donald Trump Lost Today. It's Over.
 

I just posted that with a much more complete audio over in he Trump Is In thread.

Trump is a pig.

Tie-break for Hillary?

The German political commentators say that this topic probably could break Trump's neck.

Nah, just food for TV junkies and will soon be forgotten. His stock probably went up with the macho men and he didn't have much to lose from the women anyway.

He could claim that the video was doctored by the media and his supporters will not only believe him but blame the media for his problems.

I don't think there are enough middle aged white males to elect the Orange A-hole without the help from some other demographic and hopefully his comments prevent those from voting for this pig!

I don't know what his words sounded like to males, but as a female... He sounded like a predator.
I'll be the first to admit I don't like the guy, so there is probably some bias on my part.... On the other hand, if I heard any guy say these same things I would still think the words sound like the words of a predator.

No worse than I've heard in any locker room, on any golf course, or in any bar on a Saturday night.

On the other hand, this won't matter a whit to the folks who would vote for Trump, just like Bill Clinton's antics never mattered a whit his supporters. Some of those were ardent feminists who looked the other way and pulled the lever for him anyway.

And those will be many of the same folks who will go to the polls next month and pull the lever for Hillary, who publicly trashed Bill's women in the media, before Bill finally acknowledged the truth later on.

Someone queue Tammy Wynette singling Stand by Your Man.

I guess it depends on who you hang out with.:cool:

I agree with whell on one thing. This won't matter to the people who support Trump. They already know who Trump is and they don't care. And just to make sure his fans understand what's at stake, Trump rereleased one of his greatest hits: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...te-dna-n661941

No it doesn't. Hell, I was in a family restaurant with my daughter a few weeks ago and a couple of idiots walked in carrying on with a discussion laden with F bombs. Kudos to the owner for telling them to leave. But lots off folks these days seem to have little self restraint.

Do you think we could tell Trump to just leave?

The restaurateur told that group to leave because their behavior was inappropriate and unacceptable. Don't you think that we should hold a presidential candidate to the same standard?

More to the point, this is part of a pattern we've been seeing in Trump for years, from public displays of marital infidelity, multiple allegations of rape, misogynistic public tirades against multiple women, from Rosie O'Donnell to Heidi Cruz, and the public fat shaming and objectification of Alicia Machado.

How a person feels toward women isn't high on my priority list for the things that need to be taken care of in the oval office. That being said, I don't think Hilary cares one iota about women besides herself either. She just isn't blatant about it. They are both big pretenders and I still haven't decided yet if I can even vote for the POTUS in the looming election with a clear conscience.

That's an easy spin for Trump folk. They look at the first paragraph and say "he's trying to tell them Mexicans to leave, ain't he"? Then they go to the second paragraph and say "change a couple names and you'd be talking about Bill Clinton".

Bill Clinton isn't the candidate, the feces flinging primate of Trump tower is.

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True. Bill just seems to be held in the same regard as Saint Ronnie. Which is why I wonder how a persons treatment of women is telling about how good a president he will be.

True..........but fuck Trump anyways. (Speaking of things typically heard in locker rooms and bars.)

The difference seems to be that Bill was just another serial philaderer behind the scenery, whereas Trump brings a strong element of non self-conscious macho mysogeny into his relationship with women in general.

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This is far from the only area in which Trump has demonstrated his unsuitability to be president but it's all of a piece with his racism, xenophobia and overall contempt for his fellow human beings.

Much better answer. Still don't like either candidate though. Both will likely upset the SCOTUS in a negative fashion. What a fucked up time to be an American.

Because they don't care if they "offend" you and they certainly aren't going to soothe your "political correctness" by letting you tell them what they can say. "This is uh-Merika and I can say what I want, you f**kin' Libtard!"........

Gee, I wonder where they got that from?

Probably the same stupid, shortsighted party that gave us Trump.:rolleyes:

Women make up half of humanity. Any President who discounts half of humanity is not going to solve any problems in our nation.

Trustworthiness in one's personal relationships can cast a pall on their trustworthiness elsewhere. If your spouse can't trust you, why should we trust you?
Sometimes it carries over, sometimes it doesnt. Trump's lack of trustworthiness carries into his other affairs from his business practices to his financial affairs.
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Such behavior is Clinton's legacy and he's still a rock star in the Dem world. He's out campaigning for his wife yet I have yet to hear any Dems suggesting that he's a liability due to his behavior. Until that happens, I'll regard all of this as faux outrage and highly selective indignation.

Actually, I think Bill is a liability and have said so here - and not just for his past behavior. And I think you'll find that Bill isn't the "rock star" you claim him to be, especially among younger voters, the youngest of which were 3 years old when he left office.

Bill is a diversion, he isn't running. As a campaigner, he's a mixed bag overall but well regarded by many.

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Of course he is but it's all Trump has left. Guys like Trump (and whell) sound like first graders: "Bill did it first and he was worse than me."

So, that was offensive to you, but Trump's comments weren't? WTF? Don't you expect more from a presidential candidate than you do of a couple of miscreants in a family restaurant?

The thing is.... What Bill did was have CONSENSUAL sex outside of his marriage. While I don't condone that.... It is a whole lot different than a male grabbing the genitals of a women who has NOT CONSENTED to physical contact.

There is a big difference.

Indeed. The "family values" party that thought getting a BJ from a willing Monica was an impeachable offense now stands by a guy who admitted on tape that he was entitled to sexually assault any woman he wanted to because he's a celebrity just months after his marriage to his third wife.

But, but, it's not hypocrisy when WE do it.

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The whole thing about calling Hillary an enabler is a blame the victim thing; that is why they are going after Bill when Hillary is running NOT the former President. It is a sort of sordid moral equivalency. Somehow it was all her
fault.

Of course the OP's post is strictly about how Trump views women not its relativity to the oval office. Etiquette, diplomacy,consideration and virtue have nothing to do with politics and how to lead and communicate in difficult situations. World leaders and the people who they represent should not be concerned about how they are perceived, much less with what they are. After all, they are the leaders and the ones in charge. They get to make the rules and decide ultimately on what will happen to us..............

Defending this pompous vainglorious manchild should be getting really awkward for the 'Pubs by now, if it wasn't previously.

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False equivalence, my friend.

Maybe Trump can get Bill Cosby on the stump for him during these final weeks?

Show me where I said his comments weren't offensive.

And yes, I had higher hopes for the nominees this fall for both parties, but we got what we've got. Gary Johnson, geographically challenged as he may be, is looking better every day.

He's far more than geographically challenged.

Indeed and anyone who know says that they support this predatory pig (apologies to the pigs) is admitting they subscribe to that same level of morality in effect admitting that they have none.

And, that says it all, doesn't it?

When Trump said he could kill someone on Time Square and his polls would rise, he was right.

Maybe it's the inability of some to separate reality from celebrity character? Look at ALL of the actors, t.v. personalities that certain folks think will or would have made "badass" presidents. You hear it all of the time. John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, etc., etc.............

Remember the bump Reagan got in the polls when his campaign released that picture of him on horseback with a cowboy hat on? Was Reagan ever a real cowboy? Nope. Would it really mean anything if he had been? Nope.

Are such people just dumb or is it some sort of mental illness, an inability to discern reality from fantasy?

Richard Wolffe in the Guardian: This is the point of no return for Donald Trump

Without sweeping 'white females' Trump cannot win. Romney did that, but Trump hasn't got a prayer. Not now.

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...roping-apology