9.9 % unemployed
 

But we added a couple hundred thou in jobs. Yea, we lost more then we gained, again. :rolleyes:

No, the "couple hundred thou" is a net gain. The thing is a lot of the people who found jobs recently were people who had been out of work for so long that they weren't part of the statistic any more. Now they're coming back into the job market(looking fro work) because things are moving in the right direction. It caused a little statistical weirdness (an increase in the rate from 9.7% to 9.9%).

John

John's right. I know it sounds like a load, but it's right. Things are actually getting a little better. The hole is just so deep the don't measure all the way to the bottom anymore.

Here's more on the subject of this thread.

Truth?

Hoo, boy!

John

Thanks for the welcome John.

You're welcome.

You're welcome. ;)

John

The GOP simply has to stand on the sidelines and boo. Watching Newshour last night both the economists on one segment (left and right) agreed that the stimulus is working now if we can only convince Dr.No and Intern Bonehead.:p

Hey, Truth,

A word of welcome and a word of advice. First, Hello. I hope you enjoy it here. Second, if you want to be taken seriously, you'll do more than just paste bombastic quotes. Give us your own thoughts, not those of a blogger or second rate newspaper columnist.

Regards,

D-Ray

Thanks for the welcome D-RAY and Hello. In regards to advice D-Ray you should know that most people don't like getting not asked for advice in regards to anything.

Would you decipher this for me, please?

Regards,

D-Ray

I don't put a great deal of faith into government statistics.

Chas

Watching the news last evening I saw some Republican in Texas asking when the Democrats are going to create jobs. Now forgive me if I am wrong, but are not the Republicans the ones who want to shrink government? Are they not the ones who praise private industry? Profits are up in almost every private company, their balance sheets are healthy. So where are the jobs/ It is not that they are not able, they are just not willing to add jobs. They would rather work the arses off their existing people than add more people. Way back in one of these threads I predicted this would happen and doubtless we will not see new hires until after the election.

+1. Because you can bet that the majority of business owners are Republicans, who will sit on their money untill the have an ass kissing sycophant (GOP) majority.

And as we get closer to election time the price of oil will skyrocket, and GOP candidates will be screaming "drill baby drill", then after the election, the price goes back down again, despite the fact that not a single new well has been drilled. -----But the connection between the oil industry and the GOP is "pure nonsense".:rolleyes:

Regards,
Dave

I love when Sarah screams, "drill baby drill!" :D

Damn Noon, we're on the same page!!!

Just wish they'd start doing it!!! We could use some new coal fired plants as well.

Chas

What ever happened to coal gassification? Or scrubbers, years back in another life I worked for Combustion Engineering, we used to build big (initially) coal fired plants for the pulp and paper companies, Every single one had scrubbers just ahead of the chimneys. They would start up on coal but when it was available they would burn black liquor, something that came from the paper making process that was combustible.

The coal plants have really cleaned up their pollution over the years. And we've got plenty of coal.

IMHO, unless we want to freeze to death in the dark with nothing to eat, we should go with the energy we have while the green energy comes of age.

I can't think of a better way to kill a recovery than to raise the rates on energy consumption. Get America back to work and perhaps then we can afford to deal with some of our other problems.

Chas

I think he's picturing her bent over with her panties around her ankles.
About the only time she says anything worth listening too.:D

Dave

And you would know this how?;)

John

The "green energy" will never come of age unless we keep pressure on people to make it happen. It has to become less economically viable to burn fossil fuels, and more economically viable to use green energy. It's called "incentive".

And this coming from a guy who drives nothing but gas guzzing V8 hotrods.....But has the sense to know what needs to be done, even if I'm not very good about doing it myself.

Dave

I wouldn't call creating shortages with our current energy supplies until the prices on them rise as to the level of green energy prices an "incentive".

But I would call it "coercion".

Now I can see the big picture, and I'm all in favor of green energy. But I'm not in favor of forcing the issue, especially in today's economic climate.

Give it some time, it will come of age.

Chas

While we're "giving it time" the Europeans and the Chinese are forging ahead. We're forfeiting our opportunity to be anything other than the paying customers of foreign corporations.

John

Not to argue with you (but I thought I just did, or at least are fixin' to), don't the Europeans use way more Nuke power than we do, and the Chinese...well, how green can you get?

No doubt they'll be selling us 3nd rate solar panels with the installation instructions in pidgin Inglish (position panel collector where sky exposure to sunlight. Secure to fastener supplied with.).

But you have a point about foreign corporations. I'll take a multinational any day.

Take care,

Chas

Yes, I think the Europeans use more nukes than we do but that's got nothing to do with the fact that Europe is also where all the progress is being made in photovoltaics , wind and tidal energy production. To the extent that we're doing anything with alternative energy, we're already getting most of the hardware from overseas.

Also, China may not be "green" but they've made a national commitment to becoming the leader in new technologies, both to become energy independent and to dominate the world market in those technologies.

John

It'll happen. But we still needed the horse and wagon to haul the engine to the automobile factory. At first.

Chas

maybe he saw the movie

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/s...ilin-palin.htm ;)

Where' the good part, yew low rent sumbitch?????

Chas

I've seen the whole thing. There is a lesbian scene involving Hillary Clinton and Condoleeza Rice.:D

I love lesbian porn.

Dave

To get back to the subject, the reason some European countries, France comes to mind, have so much nuclear power is that they use a common design, our neighbours to the north pretty much do the same, the CANDU reactor. Sure cuts developmeny costs plus you are dealing with a known and proven design.

So, to anyone who is unemployed; Is this you? Are you just a lazy bum looking to suck on the government teet?

http://www.examiner.com/x-51590-Cult...ng-hobos-VIDEO

I know different, but it would seem Republican lawmakers don't.

Dave

There's more than an element of truth to what the Republicans are saying.

Unemployment is paid by a tax levied on employers. Don't lay anyone off, you get a good rate (but you still pay), lay someone off and the rate goes way up.

Right now, I think all of the UE programs are bankrupt in all states. The politicians aren't pulling the money to pay for this out of their asses, they're pulling them out of my ass, and yours as well.

There are still jobs out there. You might wind up wearing the paper hat, but isn't that better than sucking the public tit dry?

Chas

Sure there are/were jobs out there, just try getting one of tham after a certain age.

I would do what I have to, to survive.

However;

Fuck the paper hat. And the useless wages that come with it.

I tend to think this is the plan; To deliberately hobble the economy every now and then and put people on their knees as a mechanism to keep wages and other costs down. When you're desperate, you'll work for anything you can get, right? Republican politicians love to go on about their "Pro-business" and "anti-labor" credentials all of the time, do they not? When unemployment is low wages rise, do they not? When there are plenty of good jobs employers start having a hard time "finding good help at what I pay.", don't they? Employees get a bit cockier, 'cuz they know they can just move on whenever the boss starts being a dick? And trust me, I've noticed on more than one occasion how "cocky" employers get when the economy is tight....Ooooo, Yes Lordy. Sometimes I might suspect they might even like it that way. They whip it out really fast, "You know there are a lot of folks desperate for work out there................", just before they start piling on the extra responsibilities, and eliminate things like c.o.l.a. raises and performance bonuses as my employer has recently done.

I think this is why Republicans hate "Safety nets", 'cuz it short circuits their stranglehold.
And most of the staunchest Republicans that I know are business owners. Are they not?

Maybe the small business owners don't have that kind of pull. They usually fall victim to a sour economy too. And that is tragic. I'll give you that.

But, the big boys certainly do. And the financial might to weather the storm to boot.
Sorry, if I made you angry, but that's how I see it. This is how the Corporatocracy keeps it's "boot on our necks".

The Dems may have sold out to the Corporatocracy to some degree, but the GOP IS the Corporatocracy IMO.

And, I would rather keep what I have, job wise. The pay is good and the benefits aren't bad. But those days are rapidly disappearing, aren't they?

Think it's an accident?

I don't.

What good will low unemployment be when people work, but still live in poverty anyways?

Dave

Those big employers are sitting on $1.84 trillion in cold cash, do you think they are going to do any hiring brfore the November elections?

You must be a skilled worker, because you just hit that nail squarely on the head.

Regards,

D-Ray

So how long shall we extend unemployment benefits...forever?

Chas

No.

BTW receiving insurance is not sucking any tit.

That is offensive and shallow. (for the record I work for myself so I personally can't ever receive unemployment insurance)

I will say, I am beginning to understand Sarah's appeal to the wing nuts however.:(

IMO, Until corporate profits become reasonable.

Ditto.

Dave