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"...since Daddy had to lie......."

You'll have to excuse me, 'cuz all of this took place back when the most important things in the world to me were tunes and weed. And I simply refused to hear anything bad about Reagan 'cuz everyone knew he was badass, having single-handedly won the Cold War and solved all of our problems just like Superman-n-shit-like-that.

To get to the point.

The Iran-Contra affair, what was that all about? Didn't it have something to do with shipping arms to Iran through some South American dictator?

Can I get some 411?

Dave

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 10811)

The Iran-Contra affair, what was that all about? Didn't it have something to do with shipping arms to Iran through some South American dictator?

Can I get some 411?

Dave

The Wikipedia entry is pretty good. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

John

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In 1992 George H. W. Bush pardoned six administration officials, namely Elliott Abrams, Duane R. Clarridge, Alan Fiers, Clair George, Robert McFarlane, and Caspar Weinberger.[57]

George W. Bush selected some individuals that served under Reagan for high-level posts in his presidential administration.[58][59] They include:

Elliott Abrams:[60] under Bush, the Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director on the National Security Council for Near East and North African Affairs; in Iran-Contra, pleaded guilty on two counts of unlawfully withholding information, pardoned.
Otto Reich:[61] head of the Office of Public Diplomacy under Reagan.
John Negroponte:[62] under Bush, served as the Ambassador to Iraq, the National Intelligence Director, and the Deputy Secretary of State.
Admiral John Poindexter:[63] under Bush, Director of the Information Awareness Office; in Iran-Contra, found guilty of multiple felony counts for conspiracy, obstruction of justice, lying to Congress, defrauding the government, and the alteration and destruction of evidence, convictions reversed.

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In Poindexter's hometown of Odon, Indiana, a street was renamed to John Poindexter Street. Bill Breeden, a former minister, stole the street's sign in protest of the Iran-Contra Affair. He claimed that he was holding it for a ransom of $30 million, in reference to the amount of money given to Iran to transfer to the Contras. He was later arrested and confined to prison, making him, as satirized by Howard Zinn, "the only person to be imprisoned as a result of the Iran-Contra affair."[64]

It's nice to know that the GOP stands for law and order.

Regards,

D-Ray

back in '82, i was stationed aboard the uss trippe. we had a cryptographer's shack installed on the deck of our ship, with some new crewmembers we weren't allowed to talk to. we spent a couple months cruising up and down the coast of nicaragua, well within their territorial waters. one day, a gun boat came out of the river, and opened fire on our helicopter with a 50 cal machine gun, putting several nice holes in it. when they saw us training our five inch on them, they turned tail and hauled ass back up-river.

We could dig up scandals from every administration but Ronald Reagan was a
great president and did a lot more good than bad for America and the World.
He inherited an economy in near ruin, lowered taxes and put America back to
work and purged the system of deadbeats. He brought communism to its
knees and was probably the greatest front man America has ever known.
But go ahead and run him in the ground and spin it so that it benefits your
agenda what ever the hell that is.

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 10820)

Clinton was in office for 8 years. For the whole time the Republicans were trying to bring him down with a scandal. All they could come up with was a blow job.

Reagan probably didn't even know about Iran-Contra. He was pretty far gone with Alzheimers by then. Others in his administration, probably the ex-spook Herbert Walker, were responsible.

Ha Ha, Clinton became forgetful too when questioned about whitewater,
troopergate and sexual misconduct while in office.

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 10851)

Ha Ha, Clinton became forgetful too when questioned about whitewater,
troopergate and sexual misconduct while in office.

Maybe there was nowt to forget? Good old Ken's Starrchamber could not come up with a thing.

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 10820)

Yeah, love these posts. Hey, no body is perfect. So he made a deal with Iran and lied to the American people... Hypocrites.

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack (Post 10851)

Ha Ha, Clinton became forgetful too when questioned about whitewater,
troopergate and sexual misconduct while in office.

"Sexual misconduct while in office" is so freakin' lame, especially when compared to Watergate or Iran-Contra or Teapot Dome. Hey, what do you know! All Republicans! ;)

Troopergate supposedly happened when Clinton was still governor of AR. It's pretty clear now that the state troopers were paid (by Richard Mellon Scaife) to smear Clinton anyway.

Whitewater went absolutely nowhere. Ninety million dollars and not a GD sausage. Ken Starr sure is some lawyer!

I'll beat you to this one. Kathleen Willey's story was discredited completely. Turns out she was quite the "fabulist" with a history of telling some pretty big whoppers. Another tragic and telling thing about her accusation is that the date she said the sexual assault occurred was actually the date her husband committed suicide.

I'm no huge fan of Clinton's but in 8 years of non-stop trying - I'll say it again - all the Republicans came up with was a BJ. No Whitewater, no Vince Foster, no Mena, Arkansas, not even Travelgate or the Case of the Missing W's - nothing, and certainly no scandals where administration figures were being carted off to jail as in the Nixon, Reagan and Bush Administrations.

Ever the moral relativist,
John ;)