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VanishingPoi 03-24-2016 08:13 AM

Understanding Marxism and So************************m with Richard Wolff
 
I think everyone knows by now that I am a Marxist. Richard Wolff has a great way of talking about Marxism. I like to share just a little of it. I have been studying it for several years now and in no way does this explain it in total.

"To understand why Marx's popularity has stood the test of time, Abby Martin interviews renowned Marxist economist Richard Wolff".

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?...&jumival=15950

nailer 03-24-2016 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VanishingPoi (Post 307722)
I think everyone knows by now that I am a Marxist. Richard Wolff has a great way of talking about Marxism. I like to share just a little of it. I have been studying it for several years now and in no way does this explain it in total.

"To understand why Marx's popularity has stood the test of time, Abby Martin interviews renowned Marxist economist Richard Wolff".

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?...&jumival=15950

Isn't Karl the guy who tried to sell labor (not the scarce skilled variety) being as important as scarce resources? What he was describing applied to then (western Europe and US), not now. His labor supply is now essentially global and well in surplus of demand. Adam Smith is where it's at.

Dondilion 03-24-2016 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 307736)
Isn't Karl the guy who tried to sell labor (not the scarce skilled variety) being as important as scarce resources? What he was describing applied to then (western Europe and US), not now. His labor supply is now essentially global and well in surplus of demand. Adam Smith is where it's at.

The Northern Europeans have bought a good chunk of Karl's argument and made adjustments.

nailer 03-24-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 307741)
The Northern Europeans have bought a good chunk of Karl's argument and made adjustments.

Which makes perfect sense. His theories applied best there. At the time of the Great Depression organized labor was a force to be reckoned with in Northern Europe.

Boreas 03-24-2016 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 307745)
Which makes perfect sense. His theories applied best there. At the time of the Great Depression organized labor was a force to be reckoned with in Northern Europe.

The social democracies of Northern Europe came into their own during the post-WWII era of prosperity, not during the Great Depression.

nailer 03-24-2016 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 307752)
The social democracies of Northern Europe came into their own during the post-WWII era of prosperity, not during the Great Depression.

So? :rolleyes: :) :cool:

Boreas 03-24-2016 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 307760)
So? :rolleyes: :) :cool:

So, the context you describe and the motivations you imply for the development of European social democracies is incorrect. They developed during a time of prosperity and stability, not crisis and upheaval.

nailer 03-24-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 307761)
So, the context you describe and the motivations you imply for the development of European social democracies is incorrect. They developed during a time of prosperity and stability, not crisis and upheaval.

What happened in the 30's greatly impacted the post war. Many concessions were made to labor, especially in Scandinavia.

Boreas 03-24-2016 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by nailer (Post 307763)
What happened in the 30's greatly impacted the post war. Many concessions were made to labor, especially in Scandinavia.

What concessions were made?

Was it only organized labor agitating for these concessions?

What was it about the Great Depression which prompted the demand for these concessions?

Were these concessions merely congruent with the interest of organized labor or did they impact society as a whole?

Discuss.

whell 03-24-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by VanishingPoi (Post 307722)
I think everyone knows by now that I am a Marxist. Richard Wolff has a great way of talking about Marxism. I like to share just a little of it. I have been studying it for several years now and in no way does this explain it in total.

"To understand why Marx's popularity has stood the test of time, Abby Martin interviews renowned Marxist economist Richard Wolff".

http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?...&jumival=15950

Its not Marx's popularity that has stood the test of time. Its Marx's infamy which as stood the test of time.


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