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ebacon 10-05-2015 07:10 PM

Autonomous Vehicles = Madness?
 
Suppose autonomous vehicles are commercially successful. People are free to be more productive while they are stuck in traffic. They can watch movies, refine business proposals for more machines. etc. etc.

How big would a traffic jam have to get before passengers realized that they hate sitting in their robot cars and would rather walk to a theater with their traffic mates?

I just realized that we don't have a word for traffic mates. Maybe we need one, because that is where we are headed.

Pio1980 10-05-2015 07:19 PM

Pedestrians?

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ebacon 10-05-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 288589)
Pedestrians?

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Concern for?

Technology can protect pedestrians.

That introduces an interesting question. If autonomous vehicles were perfectly safe to everyone, would people rather walk or be shuttled?

I prefer walking.

Voted.

bobabode 10-05-2015 08:08 PM

I like the idea. I have crummy knees. ;)

Boreas 10-05-2015 08:31 PM

We have autonomous vehicles around here. Google is developing the software and operating them on public roads as part of their testing. I like the idea but I wouldn't want to be forced into not driving myself.

catswiththum 10-05-2015 09:07 PM

Most of the cars I see on the road these days appear to be operating without a driver.

ebacon 10-05-2015 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 288602)
We have autonomous vehicles around here. Google is developing the software and operating them on public roads as part of their testing. I like the idea but I wouldn't want to be forced into not driving myself.

What emotions are at play? Can you think forward to being in an autonomous car and wondering how you got there? What anger, if any, would be yell-worthy?

I can imagine wanting a driver to talk to. And tip.

Boreas 10-05-2015 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 288611)
What emotions are at play? Can you think forward to being in an autonomous car and wondering how you got there? What anger, if any, would be yell-worthy?

I can imagine wanting a driver to talk to. And tip.

There's that but it's more a sense that there would be "nobody in control", particularly not me.;) I pride myself on being a significantly above average driver, having been a military chauffeur, a racing driver, a highway safety instructor and also an instructor in terrorism countermeasures for government and industry bigwigs and their chauffeurs.

As you might expect, I take driving very seriously. I'll always trust myself more than I will a collection of ones and zeros.

catswiththum 10-05-2015 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 288611)
What emotions are at play? Can you think forward to being in an autonomous car and wondering how you got there? What anger, if any, would be yell-worthy?

I can imagine wanting a driver to talk to. And tip.

Initial emotion would be fear of the unknown - will the car crash without me being able to prevent it?

Once/if autonomous cars become common with a good safety record, my question would be: "why do I have this autonomous car? I could have taken the train."

The autonomous car would provide privacy and more room for your own stuff than mass transit, but would eliminate the joy of driving (human control). Unfortunately that would prob. be the safest route, given human road rage and accident statistics.

Pio1980 10-05-2015 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980 (Post 288589)
Pedestrians?

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Designation for fellow walking traffic mates.

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donquixote99 10-05-2015 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by catswiththum (Post 288619)
Initial emotion would be fear of the unknown - will the car crash without me being able to prevent it?

Once/if autonomous cars become common with a good safety record, my question would be: "why do I have this autonomous car? I could have taken the train."

The autonomous car would provide privacy and more room for your own stuff than mass transit, but would eliminate the joy of driving (human control). Unfortunately that would prob. be the safest route, given human road rage and accident statistics.

BIG differences between autonomous car and train:

1. Car goes from exactly where you are to exactly where you want to go, point to point.

2. Car goes when you're ready, no hurrying to catch it, no waiting for it.

3. Security and privacy: no strangers in your car.

ebacon 10-05-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Boreas (Post 288615)
There's that but it's more a sense that there would be "nobody in control", particularly not me.;) I pride myself on being a significantly above average driver, having been a military chauffeur, a racing driver, a highway safety instructor and also an instructor in terrorism countermeasures for government and industry bigwigs and their chauffeurs.

As you might expect, I take driving very seriously. I'll always trust myself more than I will a collection of ones and zeros.


Would you trust your thoughts to a car that turns off your voice when it moves? Can you think through moving? For a minute? For decades?

Boreas 10-05-2015 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ebacon (Post 288631)
Would you trust your thoughts to a car that turns off your voice when it moves? Can you think through moving? For a minute? For decades?

Say what?

catswiththum 10-06-2015 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 288623)
BIG differences between autonomous car and train:

1. Car goes from exactly where you are to exactly where you want to go, point to point.

2. Car goes when you're ready, no hurrying to catch it, no waiting for it.

3. Security and privacy: no strangers in your car.

Yes indeed. I will be interested to see how mainstream they become.

Will those with the means have an autonomous car for the daily, mind numbing commute and a "traditional" automobile for weekend/pleasure driving?

Will there be legal ramifications/new regulations to address operating system "software glitches?" Accident? The car did it. Check the log. I wonder how insurance companies will adjust? Prob. favorably if the accident rates go down as expected.

System security? How easy to hack? You know someone will try.

BlueStreak 10-06-2015 07:44 AM

I love to drive. I can only imagine that owning an autonomous vehicle would be as fun as riding a bus.

Zzzzzzzzzz...............

catswiththum 10-06-2015 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 288647)
I love to drive. I can only imagine that owning an autonomous vehicle would be as fun as riding a bus.

Zzzzzzzzzz...............

Me, too. If, in the distant future, the choices for commuting on main thoroughfares during peak hours become restricted to either autonomous vehicles or mass transit, I would take the bus/train.

donquixote99 10-06-2015 08:30 AM

Meh. Driving is fun for 15 minutes.

I predict vans with beds and other amenities will become very popular.

JJIII 10-06-2015 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 288654)
Meh. Driving is fun for 15 minutes.

I predict vans with beds and other amenities will become very popular.

The 70s all over again! :D

http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk...blado1_500.jpg

donquixote99 10-06-2015 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 288660)

That's a small bus made into a non-mobile crib. That gear would be all over after a moving vehicle had made one right and one left.

Still, illustrates the concept....

icenine 10-06-2015 10:48 AM

I commute 110 miles round trip. I would love to be in the back seat reading or sleeping while my car drove itself.


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